people that that put their loved ones in nurseing homes let me tell you something,first of all if your going to put them in there, then go see them often and never go at the same time ,and if there is something you dont like speak up and let the nursing home staff have it , but first find out whose fault it is. and this is for every body in every city big or little,but listen to this please, for those people that are in small cities who are still in school and really anywhere in your small towns alot of your CNA's are people who cant or dont want to go out of their town to find work are mostly the people who take care of your family member, so before you become a bully in your school or work place just remember who might be taking care of them or you later on.this is the truth. im not saying every cna is like this , iv worked in a nursing home and ive always had a heart for old people but ive worked with peoples grandparents, mothers, fathers ect... and so has other people who i know.
People and their loved one in a nursing home?
I am also a nurse and have worked in nursing homes for many years. It is very true that the main problem is that there is never enough staff to care for your loved ones the way they should be cared for. This is a huge problem. Please people get together and let your politicians know that they need to change the laws that require so few to take care of so many. Nursing home execs are going to continue to hire only the amount required by law to stay "in compliance" . Until they raise the requirements it is not gonna change. I have seen many family members upset because mom didn't recieve adequate care. The truth was that there was one cna in charge of a hall with 23 residents!! But administration will tell them "we were in compliance"and they were. For example if you have a home with 54 residents, I believe you have to have 6 licensed personal on a 3-11 shift. Administration will count the charge nurse(sometimes two) and the med aide, that leaves 3 cna's to take care of 54 people! Also if a cna calls in they will use mrs. secratary down the hall if she is certified, leaving 2 cna's!. This happens all the time. But of course they are still "in compliance". Instead of griping at the cna's who are working their butts off to do an impossible job, scream at the politicians and demand more help!!! I am a very compassionate person and it is heart wrenching to see someone lay in urine or develope bed sores because they are not being cared for properly. And if at any time you see or hear of any kind of abuse, report it to the state immediately.
Reply:When it comes to the care of loved ones and even other people's loved ones, a concerned individual can make the biggest difference whether it be someone on the inside looking in or someone on the outside looking in. Any and everything could be considered suspect and then again when it comes to the sick and frail, any and everything could not be suspect. A trained eye, an individual with a conscience and an individual that cares, who observes anything that they feel is inappropriate in a nursing home atmosphere, should bring it to someone's attention. You have not posed a question, but your statement is very profound, if you know something, tell someone, it might mean the life or death of someone's loved one. God Bless.
Reply:My sister, at the age of 47, had an aneurysm and a massive stroke. That was about 8 years ago, and she is "still" in a nursing home today. All she can say is "I you." I love her so very much, and it hurts so bad in my heart that this happened to her. The first nursing home she was in was disgusting! I drove 8 hours to see her, and wanted to hurt the scumbag who was taking care of her that day. I told this woman that my sister needed to have her diaper and her bedding changed
right away. This woman said, "no, not untill your sister has had lunch." I said no, she needs to be changed NOW! This woman came at me, got in my face, and said NO! I will not change her till after lunch, and if you don't like it, leave! I told her to leave the room, called her supervisor, and had her fired that day. When I went out to my car, all four tires were flat on my car. I found out where this scumbag lived, and had her arrested, pressed charges, and she was sent "back" to
Mexico. These unfeeling jerks come in every color, race, background, ect. It takes a very caring person to care for these people in nursing homes, but a lot of places hire just anyone, because they are understaffed....how sad. I had my sister moved to a better, cleaner place, where they care for her a lot better. So I totally understand what you're saying.
Reply:I'll never forget the time I worked in a nursing home and a resident would play totally helpless but only when her daughter would visit. So one day her daughter thought she was going to jump a nurse about her mother who was whining about her not being able to feed herself. The nurse told the daughter when she's not there her mother never complains and does everything herself. The daughter smarted off to the nurse and told her, "So what are you saying? That I shouldn't visit my mother?" The nurse told her, "You can do whatever you want. I'm just telling you the facts." That shut the daughter up.
Reply:I understand your distress but what's your question?
Reply:I'm sorry you've had a bad experience with nursing care. I've worked for 10 yrs in a nursing home and let me tell you a few things you might not know. first of all there is never enough staff. 2nd, cnas are so under paid its ridiculous. once I had to feed 4 patients at once. management does not care about your loved ones. except to get your loved ones in the door. no one fights for us. I was a very caring caregiver while at a nursing facility. I now work in a hospital and the staffing situation is the same here. all nurses do is pass out meds. aides do all the dirty work with mostly no thanks. the pay scale is still at the bottom. I do my job because I love it. will you please fight for us? aides should not have any more than 6 patients we have 12. like I said, walk in our shoes for a day, maybe then you will see how hard we work being a PCA. we not only bathe your mom, we listen to her cry because no one comes to see her. we change her soiled pants and we hug her at night and tell her it will be o.k. we give them CPR if needed. we are the ones holding them as they are dying. so please don't condemn us. fight for us so we can take better care of your loved ones.
Reply:that is so true ,but we need people like you who look out some of us don't want to put our loved ones in those places but can't take care of them ,but the elderly are being abused and mistreated because the staff at some of these places think the old folks don't know what they are talking about and won't be believed, so yes be at the nursing home everyday if you can ,meal time bath time ,have the nurses thinking they don't know when you will be showing up.be come a nursing home Private eye
Reply:Same with little children - make sure you know who is taking care of your babies and drop by unanounced at all hours to make sure. I have worked in a lot of daycares and know the abuses that take place there. Do your homework.
Monday, April 12, 2010
Some people in here need help really bad!?
I just took a look at the points leader here in yahoo answers. It’ amazing that the leading person has 138,842 points. Some other guy has answered 39,622 questions. Can you believe that? What do these people do for a living? I imagine that these people have no real live outside Yahoo.
I was watching the news today and they mentioned that some studies suggest that people can become hooked on electronic devices such as cell phones, laptops and other similar devices. These people experience withdrawal symptoms just like some drug addicts experience. Symptoms of depression, anxiety, mood swing and the like. But that is true also for people who watch a lot of TV.
Could these people be hooked on Yahoo Answers? I imagine that it must consume an incredible amount of their time to reply to so many questions. There has to be something wrong with this people. Am I the only one to thinks so? I mean, does it look normal to you? In my opinion, some of these people need some help...bad!!!
Some people in here need help really bad!?
yes, i think being addicted to electronics is no different than being addicted to drugs. some people give up things in their life like spending time with family and friends and basic necessities like eating and sleeping just to be on the computer or playing video games. i think i am one of those electronics addicts. but i dont know what to do to get help for myself :(
Reply:My guess is they are on Yahoo answers WHILE they are at work! Because some jobs are so boring you have to kill about 6 out of the 8 hours! It beats standing outside and smoking and drinking coffee!
Reply:i absolutely agree with you, i enjoy reading and answering some, and get a lot of tips from them but not to that extent!!!
Reply:Youre right,
they have nothing better to do and need help.
Reply:I spend too much time on the computer and would probably have withdrawl with out it and even I look at people who have that many points and wonder what is going on.
If it interferes with other areas of their lives like work, relationships, sleeping, etc. then yes they have a problem.
Reply:It does seem a bit much but I have learned different strokes for different folks.Maybe they are retired and really enjoy Yahoo. I think if it makes them happy and it is not hurting me, Mazletop !(sp?)
Reply:Yay! You've just given me the opportunity for another 2 points!
Now vote me as your best answer for another 10 points....go on.....pleeeeease....you know you want to!
Oh, and I've no friends....will you be my friend?
Reply:ok
that is a lot
but maybe they enjoy helping ppl
Reply:how do u know it's just one person , my husband and i both get on here
Reply:when u have that many pointsits sad
Reply:I know what you mean. I'm hooked on Y!A, I can't go more than a few hours without my computer. I'm also hooked on computer games. I can't imagine life without it and need a regular fix every day. When I moved to Mexico, I had to wait more than a month for my computer to arrive. I nearly went crazy.
The only thing I worry about if I were to get in trouble with the law is, would they take away my computer?
On the other hand, I don't have a TV. I probably spend as much time on-line as some people spend watching TV.
I suppose we could start an on-line support group, ha, ha! What would we call it? Get a life anonymous?
Reply:Think for a minute, "how do you think, they got to spending so much time surfing and answering questions as such?" is that not what your kind of doing yourself? Your comment is so analytical, sounds as if your one of those people who is actually studied! Have fun...
Reply:Yes I do agree with you! Especially the ones who look here for counseling and questions regarding their own mental health! It breaks my heart for I come here when I am bored with nothing better to do. I end up worrying about some of these people who post.
Reply:oh, yea. i was on here constantly because it felt like nobody around me in my real life would listen to me. but if you think that is a problem, check http://answers.yahoo.com/my/profile;_ylt...
this guy has a total fascination with pee and children, and people willingly give the dude information about their own children. PEOPLE PLEASE PAY ATTENTION!!!!
Reply:Let me act i care...
Reply:Me too dude.
Reply:Those numbers seem ridiculous to me too. I like to come on and answer questions while watching TV. I wonder how many hours a day and for how many days it would take to get that many points.
Reply:Thank you, I guess from those numbers I'm only 5% as addicted to this as some people.
Reply:Does it really matter? Those people just choose to spend their time doing that. I'm on here a lot myself but that doesn't mean I don't have a life. I sit in front of a computer at work all day and have nothing else to do during the slow times.. so I'm here!
Reply:maybe they are answering from their job.
you have a limit everyday so I dont think they have hours at the computer on Answers.
Reply:i totally agree...sure i want to get alot of points but i have a life....they need one!
Reply:wow i agree u should look at my points i dont even have a 100 i have better things to do.maybe these people sit home all day on the computer doing this u never know they might do this as a living.
Reply:don't you have anything else to do than watch people that don't have anything to do than helping others to find answers with questions they don't know what to do with it so they have to turn to the people that you are watching?
Reply:I agree with you completely, but how do they are suppose to stop it, by now with that many points, they are addicted. There is no orgination for people who is addicted to Yahoo, the only suggestion that I know of is to leave them alone and let them keep doing what they are doing, no one is getting hurt.
Reply:omg...that many points....not me...not you.....
Reply:As far as I know, there is a limit on how many questions someone can answer per day. That would mean that they can only spend so much time here and they've probably been doing it for quite a while.
I'm wondering why anyone would spend their time reading through other people's points and trying to figure out why they are so high. There are several reasons why someone may have high points. Mostly, from giving a lot of 'Best Answers' (which would mean a lot of people were either helped, or happy with what that person said). Maybe they are retired, after a long, happy, and rewarding life, and find helping people through Yahoo Answers, a rewarding pass time. That you feel you must associate something negative to it, makes it sound like YOU have the problem.
Since you asked this question and are someone who spends time reading other people's points, I happened to look through your homepage. You sound jealous, bitter, and sexually inept.
Try growing up and worrying about your own shortcomings. It certainly looks like you have a lot of them.
Reply:and you think they answered those questions in just 1 day ?
Reply:i agree with you. if you answer that many questions then thats all you must do. i dont think its right, and yeah they need help. they need to start something like YAA (Yahoo! Answers Anonymous.) lol
Reply:to much of any thing is bad for you . every thing must balance out in life . I suppose they have not learn this as of yet.
Reply:i totally agree with u. most peps that do these things have no life and dont get out enough! i come on here wen im exteamly bored! u can see by my score that its crap. i just come on here to adk questions. but yeh peps do tv, games, etc way to much and shouldnt waste their lifes doing pointless things
somethings are addictive though
Reply:Help, I only need to few more points for Level 4.
Just kidding...
I think some people do get hooked on Yahoo Answers.
The Smart A$$, the comedians, and the politically INcorrect for starters.
I was watching the news today and they mentioned that some studies suggest that people can become hooked on electronic devices such as cell phones, laptops and other similar devices. These people experience withdrawal symptoms just like some drug addicts experience. Symptoms of depression, anxiety, mood swing and the like. But that is true also for people who watch a lot of TV.
Could these people be hooked on Yahoo Answers? I imagine that it must consume an incredible amount of their time to reply to so many questions. There has to be something wrong with this people. Am I the only one to thinks so? I mean, does it look normal to you? In my opinion, some of these people need some help...bad!!!
Some people in here need help really bad!?
yes, i think being addicted to electronics is no different than being addicted to drugs. some people give up things in their life like spending time with family and friends and basic necessities like eating and sleeping just to be on the computer or playing video games. i think i am one of those electronics addicts. but i dont know what to do to get help for myself :(
Reply:My guess is they are on Yahoo answers WHILE they are at work! Because some jobs are so boring you have to kill about 6 out of the 8 hours! It beats standing outside and smoking and drinking coffee!
Reply:i absolutely agree with you, i enjoy reading and answering some, and get a lot of tips from them but not to that extent!!!
Reply:Youre right,
they have nothing better to do and need help.
Reply:I spend too much time on the computer and would probably have withdrawl with out it and even I look at people who have that many points and wonder what is going on.
If it interferes with other areas of their lives like work, relationships, sleeping, etc. then yes they have a problem.
Reply:It does seem a bit much but I have learned different strokes for different folks.Maybe they are retired and really enjoy Yahoo. I think if it makes them happy and it is not hurting me, Mazletop !(sp?)
Reply:Yay! You've just given me the opportunity for another 2 points!
Now vote me as your best answer for another 10 points....go on.....pleeeeease....you know you want to!
Oh, and I've no friends....will you be my friend?
Reply:ok
that is a lot
but maybe they enjoy helping ppl
Reply:how do u know it's just one person , my husband and i both get on here
Reply:when u have that many pointsits sad
Reply:I know what you mean. I'm hooked on Y!A, I can't go more than a few hours without my computer. I'm also hooked on computer games. I can't imagine life without it and need a regular fix every day. When I moved to Mexico, I had to wait more than a month for my computer to arrive. I nearly went crazy.
The only thing I worry about if I were to get in trouble with the law is, would they take away my computer?
On the other hand, I don't have a TV. I probably spend as much time on-line as some people spend watching TV.
I suppose we could start an on-line support group, ha, ha! What would we call it? Get a life anonymous?
Reply:Think for a minute, "how do you think, they got to spending so much time surfing and answering questions as such?" is that not what your kind of doing yourself? Your comment is so analytical, sounds as if your one of those people who is actually studied! Have fun...
Reply:Yes I do agree with you! Especially the ones who look here for counseling and questions regarding their own mental health! It breaks my heart for I come here when I am bored with nothing better to do. I end up worrying about some of these people who post.
Reply:oh, yea. i was on here constantly because it felt like nobody around me in my real life would listen to me. but if you think that is a problem, check http://answers.yahoo.com/my/profile;_ylt...
this guy has a total fascination with pee and children, and people willingly give the dude information about their own children. PEOPLE PLEASE PAY ATTENTION!!!!
Reply:Let me act i care...
Reply:Me too dude.
Reply:Those numbers seem ridiculous to me too. I like to come on and answer questions while watching TV. I wonder how many hours a day and for how many days it would take to get that many points.
Reply:Thank you, I guess from those numbers I'm only 5% as addicted to this as some people.
Reply:Does it really matter? Those people just choose to spend their time doing that. I'm on here a lot myself but that doesn't mean I don't have a life. I sit in front of a computer at work all day and have nothing else to do during the slow times.. so I'm here!
Reply:maybe they are answering from their job.
you have a limit everyday so I dont think they have hours at the computer on Answers.
Reply:i totally agree...sure i want to get alot of points but i have a life....they need one!
Reply:wow i agree u should look at my points i dont even have a 100 i have better things to do.maybe these people sit home all day on the computer doing this u never know they might do this as a living.
Reply:don't you have anything else to do than watch people that don't have anything to do than helping others to find answers with questions they don't know what to do with it so they have to turn to the people that you are watching?
Reply:I agree with you completely, but how do they are suppose to stop it, by now with that many points, they are addicted. There is no orgination for people who is addicted to Yahoo, the only suggestion that I know of is to leave them alone and let them keep doing what they are doing, no one is getting hurt.
Reply:omg...that many points....not me...not you.....
Reply:As far as I know, there is a limit on how many questions someone can answer per day. That would mean that they can only spend so much time here and they've probably been doing it for quite a while.
I'm wondering why anyone would spend their time reading through other people's points and trying to figure out why they are so high. There are several reasons why someone may have high points. Mostly, from giving a lot of 'Best Answers' (which would mean a lot of people were either helped, or happy with what that person said). Maybe they are retired, after a long, happy, and rewarding life, and find helping people through Yahoo Answers, a rewarding pass time. That you feel you must associate something negative to it, makes it sound like YOU have the problem.
Since you asked this question and are someone who spends time reading other people's points, I happened to look through your homepage. You sound jealous, bitter, and sexually inept.
Try growing up and worrying about your own shortcomings. It certainly looks like you have a lot of them.
Reply:and you think they answered those questions in just 1 day ?
Reply:i agree with you. if you answer that many questions then thats all you must do. i dont think its right, and yeah they need help. they need to start something like YAA (Yahoo! Answers Anonymous.) lol
Reply:to much of any thing is bad for you . every thing must balance out in life . I suppose they have not learn this as of yet.
Reply:i totally agree with u. most peps that do these things have no life and dont get out enough! i come on here wen im exteamly bored! u can see by my score that its crap. i just come on here to adk questions. but yeh peps do tv, games, etc way to much and shouldnt waste their lifes doing pointless things
somethings are addictive though
Reply:Help, I only need to few more points for Level 4.
Just kidding...
I think some people do get hooked on Yahoo Answers.
The Smart A$$, the comedians, and the politically INcorrect for starters.
Fat people should/is placed in their own group?
Do you think that over weight-fat people should be placed in their own "group" since 99% of over weight people are discriminated against and put through hate crimes and get rude remarks/ treated as 'Not Normal, Not Human, A waste of space."
Do you agree that fat people are discriminated against and are victums of hate more then gays, lesbiens, bi's, trangendereds, blacks, whites, reliogous and the handycap?
How many times in your life have you heard people making fun of a fat person? How many times have you made rude comments or put downs towards fat people?
Do you think you are BETTER then fat people? Do you think LESS of fat people? When will fat people have to no longer take the abuse they go through everyday? Would you HELP them fight for their rights as a human and to be treated equally?
Fat people should/is placed in their own group?
No, I don;t think overweight people should be placed in their own group. I hate to say it but, if anyone has the perception of an overweight person and makes the remarks as you have described, then they should be placed in their own group and labelled as "Inhumane, Discriminate MORONS. anyone who treats people badly based on race or anything else for that matter should be banned from public!
I myself do not consider myself fat or thin, but I am sure there are probably some out there that would lean towards fat remarks pertaining to my size. But you know what, I don't give a flying ---- about it. I am comfortable with who I am in every aspect. I am a strong, independent, intelligent woman and anyone who thinks differently or tries to tell me differently will get a quarter thrown to them so that they can call someone who cares about their opinion.
Obviously from your questions you have been victimised. I will give you the same advice my grandmother always told me.
Always stand up straight and walk tall because you have every reason to. You are a beautiful and intelligent person and no one can break you. They may bend you but they will never break you. Be who you are and love who you are. Nothing else matters.
Good Luck to you and I hope you take my advice.
Be Strong and Know that you are beautiful no matter what size you are!
Reply:I am one of the few, the proud, the fat..I would and have stood up for myself.If you really think you need to make a comment to a Large person, just think of all you imperfections and Shut your mouth.If only people would keep their opinions to themselves, life would be Grand.And you know what they say about opinions,right?good comment if you are serious.I love Chicken!!
Reply:no i dont think fat people should be put in thier own groups that would be mean. i think fat people are discriminated against probably on a daily basis. people are always making fun of others. i have never made a rude comment about somebody overweight that would be really mean. no i dont think im better than fat people everybody is the same fat,skinny,ugly, pretty,gay , lesbo,handycapped whatever it is we are all the same. it is really sad when someone gets put down cuz of how they look but in the society that we live in today it is all based on looks and it would be really hard to change that.
Reply:I think our society is quick to label people. If a person isnt "slim" they have to fit into a category. Is it fair, not at all? From your question it does sound as if you have been made to feel like less of a person, and I apologize, because no one should ever be made to feel badly about themselves by another person.
Personally I dont think less of people who weigh more (i hate the word FAT) No one asked to be born out side of society's idea of "normal." I do not know if they are victimized more so than any other group mentioned, but my guess would be yes. In school age kids, you can tell who's overweight by looking at them. You can not however tell who is bi-sexual or gay. Not all kids are taught that to be accepting of people goes deeper than accepting their skin color or religious beliefs.
Do you agree that fat people are discriminated against and are victums of hate more then gays, lesbiens, bi's, trangendereds, blacks, whites, reliogous and the handycap?
How many times in your life have you heard people making fun of a fat person? How many times have you made rude comments or put downs towards fat people?
Do you think you are BETTER then fat people? Do you think LESS of fat people? When will fat people have to no longer take the abuse they go through everyday? Would you HELP them fight for their rights as a human and to be treated equally?
Fat people should/is placed in their own group?
No, I don;t think overweight people should be placed in their own group. I hate to say it but, if anyone has the perception of an overweight person and makes the remarks as you have described, then they should be placed in their own group and labelled as "Inhumane, Discriminate MORONS. anyone who treats people badly based on race or anything else for that matter should be banned from public!
I myself do not consider myself fat or thin, but I am sure there are probably some out there that would lean towards fat remarks pertaining to my size. But you know what, I don't give a flying ---- about it. I am comfortable with who I am in every aspect. I am a strong, independent, intelligent woman and anyone who thinks differently or tries to tell me differently will get a quarter thrown to them so that they can call someone who cares about their opinion.
Obviously from your questions you have been victimised. I will give you the same advice my grandmother always told me.
Always stand up straight and walk tall because you have every reason to. You are a beautiful and intelligent person and no one can break you. They may bend you but they will never break you. Be who you are and love who you are. Nothing else matters.
Good Luck to you and I hope you take my advice.
Be Strong and Know that you are beautiful no matter what size you are!
Reply:I am one of the few, the proud, the fat..I would and have stood up for myself.If you really think you need to make a comment to a Large person, just think of all you imperfections and Shut your mouth.If only people would keep their opinions to themselves, life would be Grand.And you know what they say about opinions,right?good comment if you are serious.I love Chicken!!
Reply:no i dont think fat people should be put in thier own groups that would be mean. i think fat people are discriminated against probably on a daily basis. people are always making fun of others. i have never made a rude comment about somebody overweight that would be really mean. no i dont think im better than fat people everybody is the same fat,skinny,ugly, pretty,gay , lesbo,handycapped whatever it is we are all the same. it is really sad when someone gets put down cuz of how they look but in the society that we live in today it is all based on looks and it would be really hard to change that.
Reply:I think our society is quick to label people. If a person isnt "slim" they have to fit into a category. Is it fair, not at all? From your question it does sound as if you have been made to feel like less of a person, and I apologize, because no one should ever be made to feel badly about themselves by another person.
Personally I dont think less of people who weigh more (i hate the word FAT) No one asked to be born out side of society's idea of "normal." I do not know if they are victimized more so than any other group mentioned, but my guess would be yes. In school age kids, you can tell who's overweight by looking at them. You can not however tell who is bi-sexual or gay. Not all kids are taught that to be accepting of people goes deeper than accepting their skin color or religious beliefs.
When are people in the USA going to stop protecting the illegal criminals? Since when are illegals "a people"?
Thousands rally in May Day effort for immigration reform
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080502/ap_o...
CHICAGO - Thousands of chanting, flag-waving activists rallied in cities across the country Thursday, attempting to reinvigorate calls for immigration reform in a presidential election year in which the economy has taken center stage.
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From Washington to Miami to Los Angeles, activists demanded citizenship opportunities for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. and an end to raids and deportations.
"We come here to fight for legalization. We're people. We have rights," said Eric Molina, an undocumented factory worker who immigrated to Zion, Ill., from Mexico.
Molina, his sister and his 13-year-old daughter Erika, a U.S. citizen, were among about 15,000 people who rallied in Chicago in one of the largest demonstrations of the day.
Turnout has fallen sharply since the first nationwide rallies in 2006, when more than 1 million people — at least 400,000 in Chicago alone — clogged streets and brought downtown traffic to a standstill. Activists say this year's efforts are focused less on protests and more on voter registration and setting an agenda for the next president.
Some said participation likely was lower because many immigrants increasingly fear deportation.
Margot Veranes, a volunteer organizer in Tucson, Ariz., — where 12,000 took to the streets last year but early estimates Thursday put the crowd at about 500 — blamed the turnout on aggressive enforcement by Border Patrol and police.
"People have been stopped and deported in the last week. This is a community living in fear," said Veranes, a researcher for the International Union of Painters and Allied Trades. "You never know when you're going to be stopped by Border Patrol and now the police."
But she said that's also why people were marching.
"We're marching to end the raids and the deportations, but we're also marching for health care and education and good jobs," she said.
Steamy downtown Houston saw between 300 and 400 marchers, including Victor Ibarra, 38, who said he entered the U.S. illegally from Mexico 15 years ago and remains undocumented although he's tried to attain legal status for the past seven years.
"I'm here because we need immigration reform immediately," Ibarra said, wearing handcuffs and chains. "We need to be able to travel and be free."
In Washington, immigrant rights groups and social justice organizations were demanding that Prince William County, in northern Virginia, rescind its anti-illegal immigration measure. They also called for an end to raids and deportations and for establishment of worker centers in Washington, Maryland and Virginia.
Activists also asked the Republican and Democratic national committees to have their presidential candidates enact immigration reform.
A crowd of about 1,000 gathered on the steps of the Oregon Capitol in Salem to call for changes in immigration and workplace laws within the first 100 days of the next congressional session. Many demanded that Oregon reverse a decision, imposed by the Legislature in February, to require proof of legal residence to get a driver's license.
Hugo Orozzo, a 17-year-old high school senior, was among hundreds who marched through the streets of southwest Detroit. He was born in the U.S., but his father was born in Mexico and some other family members are originally from Mexico.
"It is going to help my family and friends," Orozzo said of the effort. He carried a preprinted sign that read: "Stop raids and deportations that separate families!" in both English and Spanish.
In Miami, 75 people marched to the regional immigration offices from the Little Haiti neighborhood. Among them was Elvira Carbajal, who came from Mexico more than a decade ago and is a U.S. citizen but said many of her family members are not.
"They are going to grow up with this anger of the government for the loss of their parents, parents who were simply trying to give them a better life," she said.
In San Francisco, protesters Marta Acuchi and her husband Jose, from Michoacan, Mexico, closed their child daycare center to march with about 400 others.
"We need to fix the legal situation of immigrants," she said. "Even if it's not this year legislators are seeing we're still here, we're still marching, we're still knocking on their door."
And in Milwaukee, factory worker Miguel Tesillos, 29, was among hundreds who lined sidewalks waiting for the march to begin.
"Our people, we pay taxes, we pay the same as a citizen," said Tesillos, who has a Green Card. "Maybe the new president can see this point, and do something for us."
But activists say they know it will be a challenge to push their issues to the political forefront.
Immigration reform did not resonate with voters in primary elections who overwhelmingly listed the economy as their top concern. Immigration legislation has stalled and been defeated in the Senate, and presidential candidates have not extensively addressed the issues.
Democratic presidential rivals Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton supported a 2006 bill, sponsored by Republican candidate John McCain, that offered illegal immigrants legal status on conditions such as learning English. All three also have supported a border fence.
In Chicago, 17-year-old Celeste Rodarte marched with a group of her friends from the city's West Side. She said her parents came to the United States more than 20 years ago and became citizens last year.
"I know a lot of people who don't have papers and I want to help them out," Rodarte said.
Seventh-grader Vicente Campos of Milwaukee was granted an excused absence from school to attend the march. He said he was concerned by stories of immigration officials separating parents and children.
"Immigrants come here to support their families in Mexico," said Campos, 13. "They're not all here to do crimes."
___
When are people in the USA going to stop protecting the illegal criminals? Since when are illegals "a people"?
I pose a question to you. Where are your ancestors from? Are you an American Indian? What is the statue of liberty? If your ancestors hail from elsewhere, did you go through what they are going through? How are they any different from your ancestors?
insoles
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080502/ap_o...
CHICAGO - Thousands of chanting, flag-waving activists rallied in cities across the country Thursday, attempting to reinvigorate calls for immigration reform in a presidential election year in which the economy has taken center stage.
ADVERTISEMENT
From Washington to Miami to Los Angeles, activists demanded citizenship opportunities for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. and an end to raids and deportations.
"We come here to fight for legalization. We're people. We have rights," said Eric Molina, an undocumented factory worker who immigrated to Zion, Ill., from Mexico.
Molina, his sister and his 13-year-old daughter Erika, a U.S. citizen, were among about 15,000 people who rallied in Chicago in one of the largest demonstrations of the day.
Turnout has fallen sharply since the first nationwide rallies in 2006, when more than 1 million people — at least 400,000 in Chicago alone — clogged streets and brought downtown traffic to a standstill. Activists say this year's efforts are focused less on protests and more on voter registration and setting an agenda for the next president.
Some said participation likely was lower because many immigrants increasingly fear deportation.
Margot Veranes, a volunteer organizer in Tucson, Ariz., — where 12,000 took to the streets last year but early estimates Thursday put the crowd at about 500 — blamed the turnout on aggressive enforcement by Border Patrol and police.
"People have been stopped and deported in the last week. This is a community living in fear," said Veranes, a researcher for the International Union of Painters and Allied Trades. "You never know when you're going to be stopped by Border Patrol and now the police."
But she said that's also why people were marching.
"We're marching to end the raids and the deportations, but we're also marching for health care and education and good jobs," she said.
Steamy downtown Houston saw between 300 and 400 marchers, including Victor Ibarra, 38, who said he entered the U.S. illegally from Mexico 15 years ago and remains undocumented although he's tried to attain legal status for the past seven years.
"I'm here because we need immigration reform immediately," Ibarra said, wearing handcuffs and chains. "We need to be able to travel and be free."
In Washington, immigrant rights groups and social justice organizations were demanding that Prince William County, in northern Virginia, rescind its anti-illegal immigration measure. They also called for an end to raids and deportations and for establishment of worker centers in Washington, Maryland and Virginia.
Activists also asked the Republican and Democratic national committees to have their presidential candidates enact immigration reform.
A crowd of about 1,000 gathered on the steps of the Oregon Capitol in Salem to call for changes in immigration and workplace laws within the first 100 days of the next congressional session. Many demanded that Oregon reverse a decision, imposed by the Legislature in February, to require proof of legal residence to get a driver's license.
Hugo Orozzo, a 17-year-old high school senior, was among hundreds who marched through the streets of southwest Detroit. He was born in the U.S., but his father was born in Mexico and some other family members are originally from Mexico.
"It is going to help my family and friends," Orozzo said of the effort. He carried a preprinted sign that read: "Stop raids and deportations that separate families!" in both English and Spanish.
In Miami, 75 people marched to the regional immigration offices from the Little Haiti neighborhood. Among them was Elvira Carbajal, who came from Mexico more than a decade ago and is a U.S. citizen but said many of her family members are not.
"They are going to grow up with this anger of the government for the loss of their parents, parents who were simply trying to give them a better life," she said.
In San Francisco, protesters Marta Acuchi and her husband Jose, from Michoacan, Mexico, closed their child daycare center to march with about 400 others.
"We need to fix the legal situation of immigrants," she said. "Even if it's not this year legislators are seeing we're still here, we're still marching, we're still knocking on their door."
And in Milwaukee, factory worker Miguel Tesillos, 29, was among hundreds who lined sidewalks waiting for the march to begin.
"Our people, we pay taxes, we pay the same as a citizen," said Tesillos, who has a Green Card. "Maybe the new president can see this point, and do something for us."
But activists say they know it will be a challenge to push their issues to the political forefront.
Immigration reform did not resonate with voters in primary elections who overwhelmingly listed the economy as their top concern. Immigration legislation has stalled and been defeated in the Senate, and presidential candidates have not extensively addressed the issues.
Democratic presidential rivals Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton supported a 2006 bill, sponsored by Republican candidate John McCain, that offered illegal immigrants legal status on conditions such as learning English. All three also have supported a border fence.
In Chicago, 17-year-old Celeste Rodarte marched with a group of her friends from the city's West Side. She said her parents came to the United States more than 20 years ago and became citizens last year.
"I know a lot of people who don't have papers and I want to help them out," Rodarte said.
Seventh-grader Vicente Campos of Milwaukee was granted an excused absence from school to attend the march. He said he was concerned by stories of immigration officials separating parents and children.
"Immigrants come here to support their families in Mexico," said Campos, 13. "They're not all here to do crimes."
___
When are people in the USA going to stop protecting the illegal criminals? Since when are illegals "a people"?
I pose a question to you. Where are your ancestors from? Are you an American Indian? What is the statue of liberty? If your ancestors hail from elsewhere, did you go through what they are going through? How are they any different from your ancestors?
insoles
People in the south...?
I'm from Gulfport, MS and ive noticed that people on here are from all over! and i was wondering...how do people view the south? lol do people really think that we cant read or dont wear shoes? or that were a bunch of redneck inbreads? haha were really not i swear! well....most of us...there are those ones with no teeth and dirty hair that will bring their babies into wal mart with nothing but a diaper on and dirt all over em lol but for the most part...we just talk slow....it doesnt mean we are slow....ive actually had people from the north tell me that people in the south are the nicest people theyve ever met...i guess its that whole southern hospitality thing...well...ive heard that were perceived as low class dumb rednecks lol...i just wanted to see if thats really how people view us...so be honest...but kind please...like i say "if it aint cute...put it on mute" haha thanks everybody!
People in the south...?
its gorgeous...Ive been there where you live and wow I never wanted to leave Biloxi...wow grrreat...Ive been in the southeast for 24 yrs and I can read well and I only wear shoes when needed!! Im smart but dont have big degrees....who cares what they think?
Reply:Sorry, but your post just confirms what I already thought about your kind.
Reply:I grew up in the North. The only places in the South I have been to is Atlanta, GA and Florida (which isn't really the South in my opinion).
My general contention about Southerners is that they are very traditional, can be close-minded about things such as homosexuality, interracial dating etc. I think they are very tight-knit with their community, though and have strong family bonds. I think the South is still very segregated colorwise and I think that many Southerners are more of your fundamental Christians.
You couldn't pay me to step foot in deep, rural parts of the South. I'd be too afraid i'd get attacked by a lynch mob or something.
I will say, Southerners do tend to be more cordial, as well as more blatant in their disaproval.
You asked.
Reply:Im from Wales, and in Britain the common sterotype of Americans from the south is that they are dirty, nasty, racist, homophobic hill billies.
However, that cannot be true of all folk and I think the movies paint that picture to the rest of the world.
Reply:People in the south have a reputation for being conservative and religious Christians. A stereotypical person from the south might talk reeaaalllyyy sslloowelllllyyyyy and live on a farm with 17 kids and a whole lot of animals lol but I know plenty of people from the south, and I know that they are just... normal!! I really like the accent though. Well not always, but if it's not too thick, I do. I would say that most people like to joke about the south, but they know that they are just talking about stereotypes.
Reply:Don't take it personally. I just think that concentration of religious fanatics implies idiocy. The south has a reputation for clinging to guns and religion.
Then there is always the saying about Southern Charm and Northern Efficiency.
Northerners want to get the job done NOW, and don't care if they insult you. Southerners are the reverse. Unless you're black/gay/trans/jewish. Then they irrationally hate you.
Reply:lol...we have alot of those here in California.
Rednecks lol...wrinkle face idiots!
Reply:Its funny to me that northerners say southerners are racist but if you look at the concentration of blacks in south compared to the north, Northerners don't have to deal with as many as us. I'm racist and with good reason.(in the US 12.32% of the population is black( as of 2003), but make up 43.9% of the federal %26amp; state inmates)
People in the south...?
its gorgeous...Ive been there where you live and wow I never wanted to leave Biloxi...wow grrreat...Ive been in the southeast for 24 yrs and I can read well and I only wear shoes when needed!! Im smart but dont have big degrees....who cares what they think?
Reply:Sorry, but your post just confirms what I already thought about your kind.
Reply:I grew up in the North. The only places in the South I have been to is Atlanta, GA and Florida (which isn't really the South in my opinion).
My general contention about Southerners is that they are very traditional, can be close-minded about things such as homosexuality, interracial dating etc. I think they are very tight-knit with their community, though and have strong family bonds. I think the South is still very segregated colorwise and I think that many Southerners are more of your fundamental Christians.
You couldn't pay me to step foot in deep, rural parts of the South. I'd be too afraid i'd get attacked by a lynch mob or something.
I will say, Southerners do tend to be more cordial, as well as more blatant in their disaproval.
You asked.
Reply:Im from Wales, and in Britain the common sterotype of Americans from the south is that they are dirty, nasty, racist, homophobic hill billies.
However, that cannot be true of all folk and I think the movies paint that picture to the rest of the world.
Reply:People in the south have a reputation for being conservative and religious Christians. A stereotypical person from the south might talk reeaaalllyyy sslloowelllllyyyyy and live on a farm with 17 kids and a whole lot of animals lol but I know plenty of people from the south, and I know that they are just... normal!! I really like the accent though. Well not always, but if it's not too thick, I do. I would say that most people like to joke about the south, but they know that they are just talking about stereotypes.
Reply:Don't take it personally. I just think that concentration of religious fanatics implies idiocy. The south has a reputation for clinging to guns and religion.
Then there is always the saying about Southern Charm and Northern Efficiency.
Northerners want to get the job done NOW, and don't care if they insult you. Southerners are the reverse. Unless you're black/gay/trans/jewish. Then they irrationally hate you.
Reply:lol...we have alot of those here in California.
Rednecks lol...wrinkle face idiots!
Reply:Its funny to me that northerners say southerners are racist but if you look at the concentration of blacks in south compared to the north, Northerners don't have to deal with as many as us. I'm racist and with good reason.(in the US 12.32% of the population is black( as of 2003), but make up 43.9% of the federal %26amp; state inmates)
When are people in the USA going to stop protecting the illegal criminals? Since when are illegals "a people"?
Thousands rally in May Day effort for immigration reform
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080502/ap_o...
CHICAGO - Thousands of chanting, flag-waving activists rallied in cities across the country Thursday, attempting to reinvigorate calls for immigration reform in a presidential election year in which the economy has taken center stage.
ADVERTISEMENT
From Washington to Miami to Los Angeles, activists demanded citizenship opportunities for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. and an end to raids and deportations.
"We come here to fight for legalization. We're people. We have rights," said Eric Molina, an undocumented factory worker who immigrated to Zion, Ill., from Mexico.
Molina, his sister and his 13-year-old daughter Erika, a U.S. citizen, were among about 15,000 people who rallied in Chicago in one of the largest demonstrations of the day.
Turnout has fallen sharply since the first nationwide rallies in 2006, when more than 1 million people — at least 400,000 in Chicago alone — clogged streets and brought downtown traffic to a standstill. Activists say this year's efforts are focused less on protests and more on voter registration and setting an agenda for the next president.
Some said participation likely was lower because many immigrants increasingly fear deportation.
Margot Veranes, a volunteer organizer in Tucson, Ariz., — where 12,000 took to the streets last year but early estimates Thursday put the crowd at about 500 — blamed the turnout on aggressive enforcement by Border Patrol and police.
"People have been stopped and deported in the last week. This is a community living in fear," said Veranes, a researcher for the International Union of Painters and Allied Trades. "You never know when you're going to be stopped by Border Patrol and now the police."
But she said that's also why people were marching.
"We're marching to end the raids and the deportations, but we're also marching for health care and education and good jobs," she said.
Steamy downtown Houston saw between 300 and 400 marchers, including Victor Ibarra, 38, who said he entered the U.S. illegally from Mexico 15 years ago and remains undocumented although he's tried to attain legal status for the past seven years.
"I'm here because we need immigration reform immediately," Ibarra said, wearing handcuffs and chains. "We need to be able to travel and be free."
In Washington, immigrant rights groups and social justice organizations were demanding that Prince William County, in northern Virginia, rescind its anti-illegal immigration measure. They also called for an end to raids and deportations and for establishment of worker centers in Washington, Maryland and Virginia.
Activists also asked the Republican and Democratic national committees to have their presidential candidates enact immigration reform.
A crowd of about 1,000 gathered on the steps of the Oregon Capitol in Salem to call for changes in immigration and workplace laws within the first 100 days of the next congressional session. Many demanded that Oregon reverse a decision, imposed by the Legislature in February, to require proof of legal residence to get a driver's license.
Hugo Orozzo, a 17-year-old high school senior, was among hundreds who marched through the streets of southwest Detroit. He was born in the U.S., but his father was born in Mexico and some other family members are originally from Mexico.
"It is going to help my family and friends," Orozzo said of the effort. He carried a preprinted sign that read: "Stop raids and deportations that separate families!" in both English and Spanish.
In Miami, 75 people marched to the regional immigration offices from the Little Haiti neighborhood. Among them was Elvira Carbajal, who came from Mexico more than a decade ago and is a U.S. citizen but said many of her family members are not.
"They are going to grow up with this anger of the government for the loss of their parents, parents who were simply trying to give them a better life," she said.
In San Francisco, protesters Marta Acuchi and her husband Jose, from Michoacan, Mexico, closed their child daycare center to march with about 400 others.
"We need to fix the legal situation of immigrants," she said. "Even if it's not this year legislators are seeing we're still here, we're still marching, we're still knocking on their door."
And in Milwaukee, factory worker Miguel Tesillos, 29, was among hundreds who lined sidewalks waiting for the march to begin.
"Our people, we pay taxes, we pay the same as a citizen," said Tesillos, who has a Green Card. "Maybe the new president can see this point, and do something for us."
But activists say they know it will be a challenge to push their issues to the political forefront.
Immigration reform did not resonate with voters in primary elections who overwhelmingly listed the economy as their top concern. Immigration legislation has stalled and been defeated in the Senate, and presidential candidates have not extensively addressed the issues.
Democratic presidential rivals Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton supported a 2006 bill, sponsored by Republican candidate John McCain, that offered illegal immigrants legal status on conditions such as learning English. All three also have supported a border fence.
In Chicago, 17-year-old Celeste Rodarte marched with a group of her friends from the city's West Side. She said her parents came to the United States more than 20 years ago and became citizens last year.
"I know a lot of people who don't have papers and I want to help them out," Rodarte said.
Seventh-grader Vicente Campos of Milwaukee was granted an excused absence from school to attend the march. He said he was concerned by stories of immigration officials separating parents and children.
"Immigrants come here to support their families in Mexico," said Campos, 13. "They're not all here to do crimes."
___
When are people in the USA going to stop protecting the illegal criminals? Since when are illegals "a people"?
The ones that try to protect them fail to realize that they have come here as law breakers, whether they were felons or not back in their original country...they are here, say it with me "ILLEGALLY!!!"...it isn't fair to those that work hard to come here and make a life the legal way...as many of our ancestors did, they had to go through Ellis Island, and many were sent back if they were considered sick, lame, disabled, etc...why should the ones that came here legally have any rights? It's the liberal elitists that ralley for them, liberal hollywood, who have mansions in well gated communities where they don't have to live with the lower people, they want the illegals to live in OUR neighborhoods, the middle and working class...we're sick of it.....
Reply:No matter if they are illegal immigrants or US citizens they are still PEOPLE. If they do something that is considered criminal then they should not be allowed to stay here. Since we do have enough of the US citizens here that are criminals.
Reply:By law they are breaking the law. I do not think they are 'criminals' but they are breaking the law and should be treated as such.
Fighting for rights in a country you live illegal in is ridiculus, but apprently the normal idiot americans who want to live an easy life with no thought of consequence or impact that certain things have on this country want to support this movement because its easier.
I have a friend who lives in a town east of San Diego close to the border and has not been able to find employment over the past year, even at the lowest level. She has been told on more than one occasion that she isn't hispanic so the customers wouldn't like her very much. She was told this at AMPM for one-and she is a certified MA trying to find work at a gas station.
This part of it sucks. When Americans can't get jobs over illegal immigrants in their own country, I see that as a huge problem. My friend is now moving back to San Diego where her husband and her can barely afford housing so she can get a job (his job is in the area, so they can't move somewhere else all togeather).
THAT piss's me off.
Reply:Such is life! I am mexican live in mexico w/ no desire to move north. but the globalization phenomenom is a fact,,,,,, and gues what not a soul is going to stop it people will go after their goods no matter where they are!"" just look at all the american companies all over the world ?what you think they are doing?.........
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080502/ap_o...
CHICAGO - Thousands of chanting, flag-waving activists rallied in cities across the country Thursday, attempting to reinvigorate calls for immigration reform in a presidential election year in which the economy has taken center stage.
ADVERTISEMENT
From Washington to Miami to Los Angeles, activists demanded citizenship opportunities for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. and an end to raids and deportations.
"We come here to fight for legalization. We're people. We have rights," said Eric Molina, an undocumented factory worker who immigrated to Zion, Ill., from Mexico.
Molina, his sister and his 13-year-old daughter Erika, a U.S. citizen, were among about 15,000 people who rallied in Chicago in one of the largest demonstrations of the day.
Turnout has fallen sharply since the first nationwide rallies in 2006, when more than 1 million people — at least 400,000 in Chicago alone — clogged streets and brought downtown traffic to a standstill. Activists say this year's efforts are focused less on protests and more on voter registration and setting an agenda for the next president.
Some said participation likely was lower because many immigrants increasingly fear deportation.
Margot Veranes, a volunteer organizer in Tucson, Ariz., — where 12,000 took to the streets last year but early estimates Thursday put the crowd at about 500 — blamed the turnout on aggressive enforcement by Border Patrol and police.
"People have been stopped and deported in the last week. This is a community living in fear," said Veranes, a researcher for the International Union of Painters and Allied Trades. "You never know when you're going to be stopped by Border Patrol and now the police."
But she said that's also why people were marching.
"We're marching to end the raids and the deportations, but we're also marching for health care and education and good jobs," she said.
Steamy downtown Houston saw between 300 and 400 marchers, including Victor Ibarra, 38, who said he entered the U.S. illegally from Mexico 15 years ago and remains undocumented although he's tried to attain legal status for the past seven years.
"I'm here because we need immigration reform immediately," Ibarra said, wearing handcuffs and chains. "We need to be able to travel and be free."
In Washington, immigrant rights groups and social justice organizations were demanding that Prince William County, in northern Virginia, rescind its anti-illegal immigration measure. They also called for an end to raids and deportations and for establishment of worker centers in Washington, Maryland and Virginia.
Activists also asked the Republican and Democratic national committees to have their presidential candidates enact immigration reform.
A crowd of about 1,000 gathered on the steps of the Oregon Capitol in Salem to call for changes in immigration and workplace laws within the first 100 days of the next congressional session. Many demanded that Oregon reverse a decision, imposed by the Legislature in February, to require proof of legal residence to get a driver's license.
Hugo Orozzo, a 17-year-old high school senior, was among hundreds who marched through the streets of southwest Detroit. He was born in the U.S., but his father was born in Mexico and some other family members are originally from Mexico.
"It is going to help my family and friends," Orozzo said of the effort. He carried a preprinted sign that read: "Stop raids and deportations that separate families!" in both English and Spanish.
In Miami, 75 people marched to the regional immigration offices from the Little Haiti neighborhood. Among them was Elvira Carbajal, who came from Mexico more than a decade ago and is a U.S. citizen but said many of her family members are not.
"They are going to grow up with this anger of the government for the loss of their parents, parents who were simply trying to give them a better life," she said.
In San Francisco, protesters Marta Acuchi and her husband Jose, from Michoacan, Mexico, closed their child daycare center to march with about 400 others.
"We need to fix the legal situation of immigrants," she said. "Even if it's not this year legislators are seeing we're still here, we're still marching, we're still knocking on their door."
And in Milwaukee, factory worker Miguel Tesillos, 29, was among hundreds who lined sidewalks waiting for the march to begin.
"Our people, we pay taxes, we pay the same as a citizen," said Tesillos, who has a Green Card. "Maybe the new president can see this point, and do something for us."
But activists say they know it will be a challenge to push their issues to the political forefront.
Immigration reform did not resonate with voters in primary elections who overwhelmingly listed the economy as their top concern. Immigration legislation has stalled and been defeated in the Senate, and presidential candidates have not extensively addressed the issues.
Democratic presidential rivals Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton supported a 2006 bill, sponsored by Republican candidate John McCain, that offered illegal immigrants legal status on conditions such as learning English. All three also have supported a border fence.
In Chicago, 17-year-old Celeste Rodarte marched with a group of her friends from the city's West Side. She said her parents came to the United States more than 20 years ago and became citizens last year.
"I know a lot of people who don't have papers and I want to help them out," Rodarte said.
Seventh-grader Vicente Campos of Milwaukee was granted an excused absence from school to attend the march. He said he was concerned by stories of immigration officials separating parents and children.
"Immigrants come here to support their families in Mexico," said Campos, 13. "They're not all here to do crimes."
___
When are people in the USA going to stop protecting the illegal criminals? Since when are illegals "a people"?
The ones that try to protect them fail to realize that they have come here as law breakers, whether they were felons or not back in their original country...they are here, say it with me "ILLEGALLY!!!"...it isn't fair to those that work hard to come here and make a life the legal way...as many of our ancestors did, they had to go through Ellis Island, and many were sent back if they were considered sick, lame, disabled, etc...why should the ones that came here legally have any rights? It's the liberal elitists that ralley for them, liberal hollywood, who have mansions in well gated communities where they don't have to live with the lower people, they want the illegals to live in OUR neighborhoods, the middle and working class...we're sick of it.....
Reply:No matter if they are illegal immigrants or US citizens they are still PEOPLE. If they do something that is considered criminal then they should not be allowed to stay here. Since we do have enough of the US citizens here that are criminals.
Reply:By law they are breaking the law. I do not think they are 'criminals' but they are breaking the law and should be treated as such.
Fighting for rights in a country you live illegal in is ridiculus, but apprently the normal idiot americans who want to live an easy life with no thought of consequence or impact that certain things have on this country want to support this movement because its easier.
I have a friend who lives in a town east of San Diego close to the border and has not been able to find employment over the past year, even at the lowest level. She has been told on more than one occasion that she isn't hispanic so the customers wouldn't like her very much. She was told this at AMPM for one-and she is a certified MA trying to find work at a gas station.
This part of it sucks. When Americans can't get jobs over illegal immigrants in their own country, I see that as a huge problem. My friend is now moving back to San Diego where her husband and her can barely afford housing so she can get a job (his job is in the area, so they can't move somewhere else all togeather).
THAT piss's me off.
Reply:Such is life! I am mexican live in mexico w/ no desire to move north. but the globalization phenomenom is a fact,,,,,, and gues what not a soul is going to stop it people will go after their goods no matter where they are!"" just look at all the american companies all over the world ?what you think they are doing?.........
Why do some people hurt the ones who were once important to them?
This is something I dont understand about people. They make friends or people they consider friends and enter relationships so quickly but than end up getting hurt and seek revenge on the ones who they once held so dearly. Some bad argument or betrayal ruins any trust they might have had in each other. Of course betrayal cannot be taken lightly and destroyed trust cannot be restored therefore people lose the ones who held such high importance to them. Than as if this loss isnt enough suffering they go causing more sadness by attempting to hurt the other person. In situations between a boyfriend and girlfriend there have been cases where the girl didnt want him to be happy again so she tells a lie to another woman he wants to be with or the guy wanting to his ex to regret leaving him puts up a sex tape of the both of them on the internet. Another example is when friends take their separation to another level and try to make other people hate the friend they once had. Personally I find this to be pathetic and immoral. There's absolutely no need to spread the pain and it's even more pointless to involve other people into your quarrels. Revenge is something I would seek at the moment but it feels very difficult to keep a grudge so even if people do separate I dont think it's necessary to emit so much hatred and give way to more pain even after that person is no longer a part of your life. It's understandable to be angry and making the other person feel the same can perhaps be considered a defense technique but it's important to draw limits to your actions and even though you wont be able to forget the wrongs done to you it would help to have some hope of a future without the person you have already lost (of course this is one of the hardest things to do). If you were really close to someone than it would be fulfilling to try setting bad feelings aside and practice forgiveness. Some people we lose forever and by leaving things unresolved negative feelings are preserved. There will always be feelings of resentment toward the ones who have wronged you but if you go too far when it comes to causing damage you will most likely regret it sometime in the future. It's very common for people to rush into things but they dont seem to care enough for loyalty and simply just use others for their own gain. I'm sure all of us have our so called friends but it's very difficult to experience that bond with other people and if we handle our friendships and people close to us so carelessly than I wonder what will happen to us and whether we will ever stop losing the ones we cherish the most. Why are deep understandings so uncommon among our civilization?
Why do some people hurt the ones who were once important to them?
When a relationship goes bad there are a few choices.
You can feel it’s all your fault, wallow in self pity and just hide yourself away never to start another. That’s not a good idea.
So instead, you can feel it was all his fault, he’s a terrible person, a hateful person who doesn’t deserve to ever be happy. Now that feels better of course, now it wasn’t you who caused all the problems, it was him.
With that second choice there are choices too. If you’re the forgiving kind you simply take your knocks, forgive and move on. But on the other hand if you were raised in a culture and/or a family that believes in retribution then you will feel a burning need to seek vengeance because this guy has ruined your life, he’s wasted your time and he’s caused you a lot of pain that you feel you need to inflict in return. Of course if you take this route he’ll be hurt too, especially if you’re good at it, and he’ll try to hurt you back. Before long you have a full scale war on your hands.
There is another choice too, the hardest one of all. You can lick your wounds and try to cool down and then you can take a look at the relationship to try to understand what happened. You can ask the question “what really happened?” Then you can ask “How did I contribute to those problems?” And finally you can ask “How did he contribute to the problems?” The answers to those questions will help you understand the human dynamics that lea to the mess. Finally understanding that, you can ask one more question “What should I have done differently?” Finding that answer helps you to grow and form a more lasting meaningful relationship the next time.
The problem with that last choice is that it also demands accepting some fault. It demands a degree of maturity and wisdom to discover what really went wrong. It demands a lot of effort and introspection. Those are very hard things to do, certainly a lot harder than just blaming him or blaming yourself. And as human being we tend to try to follow the easy route rather than the hard one.
But you know, there are benefits to that last choice too. Once you understand you will sense such issues the next time and be prepared to deal with them in a kinder more effective manner. Understanding the whole situation you are able to let it all go and to forgive which in turn then allows you to remain friends with him. Understanding helps you to grow and become a better person.
But of course you can’t know those benefits if you’ve never tried to understand what actually happened or if you’re incapable at the moment of understanding. So you don’t have the motivation of those benefits.
So in the end a lot of people just prefer the route of vengeance because it exonerates them, and it makes them feel better briefly knowing that they’ve managed to inflict even more pain on the other partner.
Finally - Why are deep understandings so uncommon among our civilization? Because it is very hard for us to accept that we have done something wrong. It is very hard for us to understand what actually happened. It is very hard for us to simply accept that sometimes something was not meant to be. And because it takes us a long time to slowly gain the wisdom it takes to come to grips with those things to finally arrive at the point where they aren't really that hard any more.
I hope this helps you understand a little.
Reply:Because they don't have the capacity nor the conscience and never really cared in the first place. I think "deep understanding" %26amp; empathy are uncommon today because of overpopulation, consumerism, not raised right and without any consideration for fellow human beings and peer pressure. They had a hidden agenda (to further themselves) from the very beginning, all along. They want to climb that ladder but forget who they used to climb over.
It's also unforgivable, imo, for someone to betray another and get others to side with the traitor.
Reply:Simple, by hurting the one that they cared for, it makes it easier for them to pull away because now the person that they cared for hates them and does not want ot talk to them anymore! Humans are weird creatures!
Reply:Original sin is what causes this. It goes all the away back to Adam and Eve from which we inherited original sin.
God formed man in His image and man was perfect, but they disobeyed God so they were case out of Eden, Paradise. Now we live in sin. It is simple. Then Jesus came to deliver us from our sins, but we must accept Jesus as our personal Savior and be born again to become a new creation.
There is a devil and he is real. It is simple. No deep thought needed!
Reply:I would say it is unfinished business and lack of closure.
We generally act nicer with strangers because they do not mean much to us but once you become close to people and you know them. then you get unmeshed so to speak.
It is no excuse or hurting another person though.
If everybody was indifferent to everybody else; we would neither experience the joys nor the sadnesses which come with all intimate interractions. With indifference we would just all...do not care and forget.
Reply:I once had an obsessive crush on someone that never got anywhere because I coudn't see him for a year shortly after it developed. By the time he had reappeared in my life, I was developing a bond between me and someone else, and it bothers me every time I see the old person.
So I try to think awful thoughts of him (because I never hurt anyone, this is closest) so he can leave my mind alone. Is it working? I don't know.
Reply:Another long 1 'ere, eh? 1 question, what is this junk about putting up sex tapes on the Internet...? You really did not need to add that...
Anyways... When someone is betrayed or has his or her trust destroyed, or anything like that, emotions change. Those good feelings pull a complete 180 and turn into horrible feelings. And negative feelings are very strong yet do no need a lot to feed off of. The smallest supply will work just nicely. And so when these strong negative feeling arise, people usually don't know how to handle them. They act on their emotions without thinking because it's a bit hard to try and think logically, and sort everything out when something terrible, (such as being betrayed), has just happened. People act on impulses of their emotions. It's simply human nature, there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Setting limits and whatnot would require good thought. And things happen so fast, including the betrayal itself, there's no time to think about the later. Only the now. And as of right now, this person was just betrayed (in 1 form or another), and either his or her feelings are hurt or he or she is pissed. (Excuse my language.) In reality it can be both. The person is really saddened deep down, but the 1st and/or only emotion to show is anger. It happens to me a lot... After time though, when I've gotten out all my messed up emotions, then I don think about things and try to sort it out a bit. But I need to get myself under control 1st.
Should people think twice, act once? Yes, absolutely. Is that human nature though? No, not really. Could it be if we maybe tried a bit? I don't know... It might be possible. You must admit, at times when someone had done something hurtful or wrong to you, you wanted to seek revenge, or even did it. Remember how you felt at that/those time(s). You can't pass judgment like that unto others and trash them about it if you've been there yourself.
Look, I did some pretty bad things to my boyfriend, which in the end, cost me him... Do I regret it? With all my heart... Can I change my past? No. Will I learn from it and make sure I don't make the same mistake again? Absolutely. But there's nothing I can do about it now...
Reply:because people cant let go of things. also it is a control issue. If they arent happy they dont want the other person to be happy. they think their only way of controlling someone is to make them unhappy, then the person will be under their thumb. They want influence. they cant get it being nice people so they do that stuff.
Reply:i wanna read this but it's just tooo darn long.
Reply:Holy **** Boy, you said a whole lot. It's good to get it off your chest. First, people are people. They are interesting. Sometimes they are vague, bold, nosy, controlling, using. We can't change them. They are who they are. Regardless, it sounds like you have a lot to deal with. I am most happy to give my advice. (hbgbldr@yahoo.com). xoxoxo peace DJ
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Why do some people hurt the ones who were once important to them?
When a relationship goes bad there are a few choices.
You can feel it’s all your fault, wallow in self pity and just hide yourself away never to start another. That’s not a good idea.
So instead, you can feel it was all his fault, he’s a terrible person, a hateful person who doesn’t deserve to ever be happy. Now that feels better of course, now it wasn’t you who caused all the problems, it was him.
With that second choice there are choices too. If you’re the forgiving kind you simply take your knocks, forgive and move on. But on the other hand if you were raised in a culture and/or a family that believes in retribution then you will feel a burning need to seek vengeance because this guy has ruined your life, he’s wasted your time and he’s caused you a lot of pain that you feel you need to inflict in return. Of course if you take this route he’ll be hurt too, especially if you’re good at it, and he’ll try to hurt you back. Before long you have a full scale war on your hands.
There is another choice too, the hardest one of all. You can lick your wounds and try to cool down and then you can take a look at the relationship to try to understand what happened. You can ask the question “what really happened?” Then you can ask “How did I contribute to those problems?” And finally you can ask “How did he contribute to the problems?” The answers to those questions will help you understand the human dynamics that lea to the mess. Finally understanding that, you can ask one more question “What should I have done differently?” Finding that answer helps you to grow and form a more lasting meaningful relationship the next time.
The problem with that last choice is that it also demands accepting some fault. It demands a degree of maturity and wisdom to discover what really went wrong. It demands a lot of effort and introspection. Those are very hard things to do, certainly a lot harder than just blaming him or blaming yourself. And as human being we tend to try to follow the easy route rather than the hard one.
But you know, there are benefits to that last choice too. Once you understand you will sense such issues the next time and be prepared to deal with them in a kinder more effective manner. Understanding the whole situation you are able to let it all go and to forgive which in turn then allows you to remain friends with him. Understanding helps you to grow and become a better person.
But of course you can’t know those benefits if you’ve never tried to understand what actually happened or if you’re incapable at the moment of understanding. So you don’t have the motivation of those benefits.
So in the end a lot of people just prefer the route of vengeance because it exonerates them, and it makes them feel better briefly knowing that they’ve managed to inflict even more pain on the other partner.
Finally - Why are deep understandings so uncommon among our civilization? Because it is very hard for us to accept that we have done something wrong. It is very hard for us to understand what actually happened. It is very hard for us to simply accept that sometimes something was not meant to be. And because it takes us a long time to slowly gain the wisdom it takes to come to grips with those things to finally arrive at the point where they aren't really that hard any more.
I hope this helps you understand a little.
Reply:Because they don't have the capacity nor the conscience and never really cared in the first place. I think "deep understanding" %26amp; empathy are uncommon today because of overpopulation, consumerism, not raised right and without any consideration for fellow human beings and peer pressure. They had a hidden agenda (to further themselves) from the very beginning, all along. They want to climb that ladder but forget who they used to climb over.
It's also unforgivable, imo, for someone to betray another and get others to side with the traitor.
Reply:Simple, by hurting the one that they cared for, it makes it easier for them to pull away because now the person that they cared for hates them and does not want ot talk to them anymore! Humans are weird creatures!
Reply:Original sin is what causes this. It goes all the away back to Adam and Eve from which we inherited original sin.
God formed man in His image and man was perfect, but they disobeyed God so they were case out of Eden, Paradise. Now we live in sin. It is simple. Then Jesus came to deliver us from our sins, but we must accept Jesus as our personal Savior and be born again to become a new creation.
There is a devil and he is real. It is simple. No deep thought needed!
Reply:I would say it is unfinished business and lack of closure.
We generally act nicer with strangers because they do not mean much to us but once you become close to people and you know them. then you get unmeshed so to speak.
It is no excuse or hurting another person though.
If everybody was indifferent to everybody else; we would neither experience the joys nor the sadnesses which come with all intimate interractions. With indifference we would just all...do not care and forget.
Reply:I once had an obsessive crush on someone that never got anywhere because I coudn't see him for a year shortly after it developed. By the time he had reappeared in my life, I was developing a bond between me and someone else, and it bothers me every time I see the old person.
So I try to think awful thoughts of him (because I never hurt anyone, this is closest) so he can leave my mind alone. Is it working? I don't know.
Reply:Another long 1 'ere, eh? 1 question, what is this junk about putting up sex tapes on the Internet...? You really did not need to add that...
Anyways... When someone is betrayed or has his or her trust destroyed, or anything like that, emotions change. Those good feelings pull a complete 180 and turn into horrible feelings. And negative feelings are very strong yet do no need a lot to feed off of. The smallest supply will work just nicely. And so when these strong negative feeling arise, people usually don't know how to handle them. They act on their emotions without thinking because it's a bit hard to try and think logically, and sort everything out when something terrible, (such as being betrayed), has just happened. People act on impulses of their emotions. It's simply human nature, there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Setting limits and whatnot would require good thought. And things happen so fast, including the betrayal itself, there's no time to think about the later. Only the now. And as of right now, this person was just betrayed (in 1 form or another), and either his or her feelings are hurt or he or she is pissed. (Excuse my language.) In reality it can be both. The person is really saddened deep down, but the 1st and/or only emotion to show is anger. It happens to me a lot... After time though, when I've gotten out all my messed up emotions, then I don think about things and try to sort it out a bit. But I need to get myself under control 1st.
Should people think twice, act once? Yes, absolutely. Is that human nature though? No, not really. Could it be if we maybe tried a bit? I don't know... It might be possible. You must admit, at times when someone had done something hurtful or wrong to you, you wanted to seek revenge, or even did it. Remember how you felt at that/those time(s). You can't pass judgment like that unto others and trash them about it if you've been there yourself.
Look, I did some pretty bad things to my boyfriend, which in the end, cost me him... Do I regret it? With all my heart... Can I change my past? No. Will I learn from it and make sure I don't make the same mistake again? Absolutely. But there's nothing I can do about it now...
Reply:because people cant let go of things. also it is a control issue. If they arent happy they dont want the other person to be happy. they think their only way of controlling someone is to make them unhappy, then the person will be under their thumb. They want influence. they cant get it being nice people so they do that stuff.
Reply:i wanna read this but it's just tooo darn long.
Reply:Holy **** Boy, you said a whole lot. It's good to get it off your chest. First, people are people. They are interesting. Sometimes they are vague, bold, nosy, controlling, using. We can't change them. They are who they are. Regardless, it sounds like you have a lot to deal with. I am most happy to give my advice. (hbgbldr@yahoo.com). xoxoxo peace DJ
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