White & Black People?

Reality Check.


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I was just wondering how many black people realize that a lot of the white people they "think" enslaved their ansestors, actually died fighting to free them.


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The reason I bring this up, is because I think the many white people who fought and DIED for the rights of black people in the Civil War go unmentioned.


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Are our young blacks educated on this, or is there a false sense of history: where the "WHITE" people enslaved the "BLACK" people?


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Do we understand that it was a "Good" people vs "Evil" people thing.


Never Black vs White.





I am white, and I should't feel uncomfortable saying "White Pride"... But I am. Many whites are ashamed of their own people, when we shouldnt be. We have many things to be proud of, and there is "evil" people of every race..... I am sure that there was black people in Africa that "helped" the whites decieve, collect and transport black people into slavery.

White %26amp; Black People?
Blacks werent the only ones enslaved. A lot of whites were endengered servants. They usually had to work for many years to earn their freedom.
Reply:Wow that is one of the most intelligent thing I have heard on this yahoo thing. The blacks have their own month and their hero has his own day. I am proud of who I am and every thing good that the white man has done. I am not racist. What is wrong with a white woman or man being proud? My family had nothing to do with the slavery. my family was too busy being in Europe.
Reply:KILLE!!! YOU A FEW UP ABOVE ME.. SHAME ON YOU GOD CREATED US ALL... NO ONE DESERVES TO BE IN CHAINES... GET LOVE IN YOUR HEART... AND AS FOR THE ? LETS LOOK AT IT THIS WAY OK? LIKE THE WORD OF GOD SAYS!!! FORGETTING THEM THINGS BEHIND YOU AND PRESSING FORWARD!!!
Reply:well why do you bring up the past and plus back then white people felt like they had power over us and people really couldnt do much about it til this day its racism.the reason why some white people might not be so comfortable about claiming their pride is because some feel bad and gulity about what happened.the past is the past what happened to my race is what happened know one can go back and change that... but we forgive you guys....
Reply:*sighs* It always goes back to race. you don't know how much I hate that everyone always blames raceI'm sure there are many black people that realize that many white people died for the freedom of slaves.





But one must also think that it usually wasn't until white person standing up for black rights was murdered that America sat up and paid attention.





How many black people died unnoticed before others decided it was wrong when a white person died in the efforts of racial equality? Why does it always take for a white person to be maimed or murdered for the country to notice violence?





These are the questions that you should ask
Reply:Very true! I'm sure there were Germans that saved Jews from the halocaust and they never get mentioned either.
Reply:who really care i still hate them with every fiber in my body
Reply:its irrelevent to today .. nobody alive today had anything to do with it .. truth be known it was their own people who sold them to the slave traders and they should at least have some degree of thankfulness that they wound up in this great country and arnt still bunnyhopping with the giraffs and hippos in africa ...
Reply:i feel the same way. the difference beetween black and white is basicly nada. PERSONALITY COUNTS! NOT SKIN COLOR. WUT IF I WUZ pink with poka dots? im still a human being.


my mind speaks for me.
Reply:It's not just about slavery, what about the years of in equality that followed after the Civil War? The Civil War was not fought soley to free slaves... a fact many fail to remember.... it was about money and business but it was turned into a fight to free slaves. If this was the case then how come we are still seeing so much discrimination? Wouldn't the North have made it to where White and Black people were equal every where in every way.. even in the North???? Instead there were separate neighborhoods, Black people were denied better jobs, separate bathrooms, restaurants and economic divisions all throughout the US for years after the war. We as white people should not be held responsible for slavery nor segregation... but for the way we individually respect (or disrespect) people of any race. I don't like being lumped into any category especially if I don't belong there.
Reply:You make good points, but it's a little to real for me to embrace
Reply:oh yes we definitely know about the "good" white people. We actually hear about them everyday. And yes you should be proud to be white just as I am very proud to be black. But think about it...how often do you here about positive black people on an everyday basis unless of course it's February (is it a coincidence this was written this month?) Or you're taking a African American history course.





Now since the beginning of times there have been slaves but none have been as demeaned as Africans. Think about it, they were taken from their land, treated and thought of as beast and then all of a sudden expected to live life the way Europeans do.





And yes, Africans may have helped whites... or were they actually slaves themselves during this process??? Not making an excuse for what they aided in doing but you have to look at the times, environment and circumstances on a whole.
Reply:Finally, someone who has done their research. Good job.
Reply:im black and i understand everything your saying. alot of people need to know there history. it really is against "good" vs. "evil".
Reply:Black people fought in the Civil War too, you d!ck
Reply:I think much of the damage in W-B relations in the States results not from the scars of slavery, but from a whole host of continuing problems where Blacks just get the short end of the stick. Racial steering in real estate, undercapitized entrepreneurships, racial profiling, higher density housing - there's plenty of them. And that's just the obstacles we White people put in their way. They put obstacles in their own path - oppositional culture is by far the biggest - anti-education, anti-marriage, anti-establishment (at least relatively speaking). So long as Blacks think they have to be "bad," it's going to be that much harder for Whites to accept them as good. Perhaps the best view is the "world" view - like an astronaut's view of Earth. From a hundred miles up, you can see no borders, no religions, no skin colors. There's just us - all of us - on this one bright beautiful blue marble, turning slowly, here and now, in the otherwise empty void of time and space. There is no "us" and "them." There is only us. Have a great day, and an even better tomorrow. :-)
Reply:I wonder how many white people know that they have blacks hidden in their family tree?
Reply:White people WERE the ones that enslaved them anyway.





Besides; even some whites were slaves and lower to other whites.





Like the Irish to the English.





Sad, sad; but that's the world.





Pride leads to superbia; which is stupid.
Reply:History lesson: The Civil War wasn't fought to free slaves. It was fought because the southern states that had suceeded from the Union refused to return to the Union and submit themselves to the U.S. government. These states were given a deadline to return to the Union, and if they missed it their slaves were to be freed. Thus , the Emancipation Proclamation was signed and later enforced. Honestly, it's fortunate for African Americans in this country that the Confederate states didn't budge, because had they returned to the Union, we'd all still be slaves.





Second, the idea of "white pride/power" holds nothing but bad memories for people of African descent in the U.S.: memories of segregation, Jim Crow, lynchings, slavery, etc... There is nothing wrong with being proud of who you are. But, when your pride comes at the detriment, de-humanizing, and suffering of others, it is wrong.





Absolutely, there were Africans who kidnapped other Africans and sold them into slavery, and I often find that Caucasians will throw this out as kind of a panacea. The African system of slavery was used for political or economic reasons, say for instance if a tribe lost a war, they could be carried off into slavery, or if someone owed a debt they could sell themselves into slavery to pay it off. These "slaves" were allowed to retain their identities, names, languages, and could eventually be freed and given an equal place in society, even marrying into the former owner's family. (Think Joseph from the Bible) Any African who sold another into slavery had no idea what atrocities he was submitting his brother to. The western system of slavery was brutal and de-humanizing, stripping the enslaved of all human element, thereby justifying the horrific treatment that they were subjected to.





I apologize for the length of this, but, you have touched on a subject near and dear to my heart, that I have researched and am well versed in. Feel proud of who you are as a person, but, don't try to diminish the severity of the treatment that Africans were subjected to. It was definately a "white vs. black thing." Of course, there is good and bad in every race, but, don't let the past dictate who you are now,I don't. Peace to you.
Reply:Slavery comes in all colors and today it is economic more than color. As to history, most people choose to be ignorant.
Reply:If it wasn't for Whites -- Black would not have a wheel, car, airplanes, electricity, internet, computers, fried chicken, welfare, ANYTHING.





No, they would still be living with spear and hunting large game. They had no wheel, no written language, no civilization.

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