Question for black people?

I ask you this in the least offensive way possible and I do not intend to cause conflict. But why does it seem that a majority of black people will defend there own people regardless of what they are accused of if the victim is white? These six black kids beat the living hell out of a white kid, could have killed him, and thousands of black people are protesting in defense of these six criminals. During the O.J. trial, there were black people who actually said that they hope O.J. got off even if he did it. This hurts me personally because when I grew up, most of my heroes were black. To think that if six black men beat me close to death, the people who I greatly admire would protest in defense of the people who did it makes me want to cry. I know that there has been much more injustice against your people than their has mine, but two wrongs do not make a right. We all need to think as humans, not as black people, white people, or Hispanic people.

Question for black people?
LISTEN TO YOURSELF, HIGH AND MIGHTY, THINKING HIS SH,IT DON'T STINK LIKE OTHER PEOPLE,
Reply:In response to See the World, I have to disagree. There is NO excuse for a six on one assault other than self preservation. Had the kid threatened them with a gun or had just beaten the crap out of one of the kids, the violence could perhaps be justified. But to wait three months after the so called "death threat" to attack an unarmed victim is ridiculous and cannot be justified. Racism is wrong on all accounts. Nooses, gang violence, etc. It's all a bunch of crap.





SeetheWorld: The fact that you don't care speaks volumes about your character. Don't place the blame of generations of hate on one person. It is wrong and unfair. If you cannot distinguish the difference between one white boy and an entire history of the white race, then you, my friend are equally as guilty of the racism that you so vehemently oppose.
Reply:Do you realize what that kid did to get beat up?...It's not like he is innocent...I don't condone violence or racism
Reply:I personally feel that yes its good to think as humans but the main reason that so many black people protested is because everyday you have white ppl who beat up black people and they get slaps on the hand whereas the situation was the other way around (and although it's not right) they want to give these blacks the most severe punishment. So basically if a white guy and a black crime committed the same crime the punishment will be more severe for the black guy and this is the main reason blacks will always stand up for other blacks whether they're right or wrong.
Reply:First of all your wrong he was not beaten half to death. He only had a few scratches over his eye and he was seen posing for the camera at the hospital. Then the jerk went out to a campus outing that same night. Next time keep your mouth shut and learn the real facts first!!!!!
Reply:First of all its not that we defend even if the person is wrong, its the bond that we feel, its called kinship. And they did not beat that kid close to death. He attended a dance a couple hours later. Also, it was a school fight and there were no disciplinary action taken from the school itself. A sneaker cannot be considered a weapon if you did not actually take the shoe off to hurt the person with. And I have been in several schoolyard altercations and I have never been arrested later on for attempted murder. Nonetheless, the whole case was mishandled. Justice is justice for all. That should be the most important lesson in this case. Not just that it was a black/white issue. But the nooses were deliberately put on that tree, and no one saw fit to issue a punishment to the white students who did that. Please don't compare anyone to anyone else. And fair is fair. I would not like to see this happen to anyone the whole situation is a mess. Let's focus on the fact that these kids (i repeat) kids are being put in a bad situation. And that should cause a rally anywhere, so be it black or white.
Reply:Well, the kid was probably doing something to provoke them...





I understand where you're going with this but isn't it kind of nice how the blacks all stand up for each other? Whites would never do something like that... they don't care about people they don't know. Blacks have a sense of unity created from the injustice they have been served... it's somewhat enviable. =)
Reply:In response to purplecats answer, black people also kill each other. Is that enviable as well?
Reply:You know your question can be turned around? Why do Whites do the same for their own kind?





Apparently you do not know the full story of the Jena Six. The White kids started this whole mess. You might want to read up on it; the news isn't a credible source.





BTW he couldn't have been that beaten up if he attended a social function the same day.





AND how the hell do we really know that ALL 6 were involved in beating that kid up? If all 6 were involved trust me he wouldn't have been going to a social function that same evening.





I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of the mouths of their local government.





I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH LEE-the one below SFSUN.











UH 2D? Honey just because someone has priors doesn't warrant a 22 year sentence for a school fight.





BESTISOS: Mexicans kill Mexicans too, what do you have to say about that? She wasn't talking about murder being enviable, which is just hebetude; she is speaking about our KINSHIP; that is to be envied.
Reply:Thanks for rephrasing.
Reply:Weird ....because I was just thinking.....





When I say this I mean this in the least offensive way too...it seems that most "W" people are racist. Thank you.
Reply:It was unjust justice. The charge was for attempted murder with someones "shoe" being considered a dangerous weapon. Granted the kid that was tried first doesn't have a clean record so he is not completely innocent and deserved some type of punishment but not attempted murder with the feet being considered a dangerous weapon. Even being a white man, other people hanging nooses on a tree makes me sick, and I am glad blacks hooked up to protest. I will say that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are as racist as the guys that hung the nooses on the tree in the first place. The white kid did not get beaten to death either, he attended a school function later that night. Basically the school failed to react properly and it resulted in some very bad racial clashes. I like how the media twists and turns things- majority black media says that the tree that the black kids sat under was for whites only and act like the 6 are saints . Wrong. Majority white media acts like the blacks are animals that tried to kill a white kid. Both sides are wrong in this situation and it needs to get squashed. I'm glad sh*t like this doesn't happen in Atlanta.





To the girl above me talking about OJ- he did it reguardless of if she was white. He even tried to make money off it by writing a book "If I did it"...WTF??? Plus he lost his civil case proving he was guilty. Now he is back in jail where he belongs for robbing someone. Broad





To the woman above me- a murder case isn't a very good example. If Vick had gotten off the dog fighting charge that would be a better one. OR the Duke lacrosse players being charged with rape, slandered, and then being found not guilty. It goes both ways
Reply:Asked and answered!
Reply:i've experienced racism from the other side but still if you hung nooses on a tree you'd DESERVE the butt whup. I wish Id heard this before I reported my earlier question on this but Al Sharpton skewers the equation.
Reply:i know what you mean





i've noticed that all races are touchy when it comes to someone talking about there people. Personally, I do know that african american's are a little more touchy, because in my school if someone even goes 'im not giving you my pencil' or something, african american kids go:'OH JUST CAUSE IM BLACK RIGHT??' im definitely not trying to be racist here and im not saying that every single african american is touchy, so dont get me wrong, i have a ton of friends that i love that are african american...





but umm i think the kid that was beat up had it coming... he did something to get beat up.
Reply:Read some of the other questions on this forum about these subjects.





Black people aren't defending the Jena 6 because they're black kids beating up a white kid. They're protesting an injustice in the judicial system that is ongoing. You obviously haven't heard about the black kid that got jumped by the white guys weilding beer bottles. Only one of those guys was charged and he got 6 months probation. The Jena 6 were initially charged with attempted murder, a charge some of them are still facing, which carries a max sentence of life in prison. They should pay for their crime, but let black and white be treated fairly and equally under the law.





The O.J. case is somewhat related. Johnnie Cochran did a brilliant move by making O.J. the symbol for every racial injustice and racist cop in the American justice system. That's why people wanted to see him get off - he became a symbol. As brilliant as that move was, it shouldn't have been allowed. That was a murder trial first and foremost, and though there were obviously racist cops involved, it got way carried away.





To me the Jena 6 are a better symbol for racial injustice in the legal system, but they can't afford a big-time lawyer to put them in the spotlight like that.
Reply:Because racism among blacks is not being discouraged by any of our leaders.
Reply:i just think its ironic that the picture of this kids face after the beating by 6 black guys practically looks the same as rodney king did after he got beat by 6 white guys remember how the african american community was all up in arms wanting the 6 white guys put in prison for life yet now that the situation is reversed they feel any jail time for the 6 black guys is unjustified...doesnt make any sense.they had a big protest march wanting fairness ok here a fair sentence they should get the same sentence the 6 white guys did.isnt that a fair sentence?





i dont care if someone uses the "n" word its just a word get over it and it doesnt give anyone the right to beat the crap out of anyone..the same if someone calls you ho nkey or wet back .





6 on 1 isnt a fight especially when the victim is blindsided its the act of 6 cowards who couldnt do it man to man or even face to face
Reply:It's a very complicated thing.





Why do Muslims support terror? It's very hard to understand another ethnic groups politics unless you have walked in their shoes.





I think most people of color and minority see white Americans as big brother. They kind of enjoy seeing the big brother get knocked down a knotch.





I don't think most black people think it's OK to beat a white person. If they did then there would be a lot more of it going on.





How about you? Don't you kind of get a charge when you see a white guy beat a black man in boxing or any other sport. Well it's uncommon that white people beat blacks when you get to the professional level, but aren't you always secretely rooting for the white guy?





Unfortunately most people are not athletes and so the black people are constantly seeing the white man as the winner in life. No mater how hard they try, it seems the white man always gets the job. It's not always true, but many black men see white men getting high paying jobs when they are really not even smart. Have you ever met a dumb*ss white guy that makes really good money? Black people they see this all of the time. The white guy gets the job because he is connected to the man that owns the company. This causes resentment in the black community because they have very few business owners that are hiring. They have no network so they have to try to fight their way in to our network. The resentment that builds is starting to make them rejoice when they see one of us go down.





Just my theory and I don't really know jack Sh*t.





We need to open up the lines of communication and find some common ground. Each side is going to have to compormise. Everybody has to modify their behavior depending on the company they keep. There is a character for the work place and there is a different character when you are with your buddies.





Final note: I think this goes without saying, but we all know that black people are very sensitive to race realted comments from whites. White men terrorised blacks for hundreds of years. They take racial comments or gestures a lot more serious than we do. They want us to know that under no uncertain terms will we ever get them back in to that kind of predicament. They are quick to jump on you physically and squash any threat. Not to mention many young black men grow up in a much more violent world that we do. Poverty breeds violence.





In other words don't be stupid and make racial remarks in the presence of black people unless you are prepared to take or give an *ss woopin. If you are not prepared to battle physically then don't run your mouth or hang ropes from a tree. The black kids are ready to fight. They WILL throw the first punch. In their communities you don't don't disrespect no matter what color you are. They will bring that same level of aggression in to the white schools.





Be nice to your fellow Americans for Christ Sake.
Reply:There was a tree at a high school where black students were 'not allowed ' to sit under. one day some black students decided to sit under the tree. . .the next day there were noose's hanging from the tree (an old kkk practice) the black students 'caught' and beat up one of the racist white kids that hung the nooses.





NOW the part for the march: IT is about the Injustice in the TOWN of The black kids were tried as adults, even though they were under 18, by a much older ALL WHITE jury. . .they have been in jail for MONTHS, with a much higher bail then deserved...they were tried for "ATTEMPTED MURDER' when the charge should have only been for "Assault" a couple of the verdicts had to be overturned by higher courts because they were such a GROSS INJUSTICE to these kids....and the white kids did not receive any punishment., . .not even suspension from school for the 'HATE CRIME" of hanging a noose on public/state property.





Now all of the ignorant Caucasians are coming out of their trailer parks with these ropes hanging from their pickup trucks. The sad thing is. .. .THIS HAPPENS EVERY DAY IN THE 'STATES' TO BROWN AMERICANS. . .. Its hard for black people to keep up with all of the 'wrongs' that are tossed their way on a daily basis.





Injustice ANYWHERE is an Injustice EVERYWHERE for EVERYONE..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





These "Noose Hangers" feel the same way about: gays, lesbians, jewish, all hispanic, rich white people, arabs, asians, and anyone else that does not look like them.
Reply:That's not the case; did you know that a group of white guys beat up a black guy in Jena 6 and the white guy who hit the black guy in the head with a bottle only got probation and yet the reverse happened and the guys are getting charged with attempted murder?
Reply:EVERYBODY needs to get down on their knees and repent for all of their hate, anger, all manner of racism....white and black, injustice, unforgivness and plain old evil in their hearts.


The devil is alive and well in the U S of A
Reply:Well since they never beat him close to death. 3 hours, a few stiches and an ammonia stick later ol boy was good as new. you would think that if you got beat that close to death that you would actually not leave your house 3 hours after the event occured.





As for OJ there are PLENTY of black folks that know he did it and they didnt stand behind him during the trial.





The actions of a few non-white people doesnt mean that of they all think the same.
Reply:I have been watching the news and I didnt know that the white kid who was beaten had a part in the nooses. I am a hispanic woman, and I think it is HORRIBLE that those white kids would do that. It is very offensive and I feel that those white boys are getting defended soooo much for doing something wrong. Im sorry, but how the hell are these parents going to tell us that their kid was just joking. That they didnt know what the nooses meant. Bullsh*t. Kids now adays are NOT stupid. they know what they were doing. How could that possible have been a coinsidence too. Some black kids were sitting under the tree, the white kids got mad and the next day hung nooses. They knew damn well what they were doing. And I wouldnt say that ALL black people stand up for EVERY black person out there. They, I, so many people stand up for justice. Why are the Jena 6 being the only ones who are being punished? the White kids got a 3 day suspention!! wooow, big woop! That should NOT be tolerated. And ok, im not for people getting beaten either, I think it could have atleast been a one-on-one fight....but things happen, what can I say. Its just so wrong.....
Reply:Think about it, you could ask yourself the same thing about whites. There is really more to the story about the Jena 6, please try and research it. I don't think anyone thinks that violence is okay but 20 plus years for a school ground fight?? Yes, the boy was injured but he was able to leave the hospital the same day and go to a party. How could that equal attempted murder. Let me ask you a question about OJ, why cant the white community let it go. He was acquitted. Whether you agree or disagree, why keep bringing it up. Because in reality the white community does not want to see a Black man get away with a crime against a white woman. Many whites who say he did it, can't stand the fact that he got off. But what about the thousands of white men who kill their wives and get away with it? everyday men and woman get off for killing their spouses, where is the outrage?? why aren't you defending the victims?? Because whether you like it or agree, race plays a role. So please stop acting high and mighty.





To the man below me....First, I'm not a girl...I'm a woman and second, I was making a comparision to show how things are racially unfair. Many people are found not guilty in a criminal trial but are found liable in a civil trial. I was only making a comparsion that sometimes the white community can be racially biased when things happen to a member of their own community. I am not a fan of OJ nor will I ever be and could honestly care less about him. If you would take your racially confused blinders off then maybe you could see other peoples point of views.
Reply:In today's society, the guy that got beat up was asking for it. NEVER USE RACIST REMARKS OR DO HANG A NOOSE IF U DON'T WANT TO GET BEAT UP OR KILLED. That guy had what was coming to him. And how come the guy that got beat up was not punished as well. How dare you look at one side of the situation and not look at the fact that blacks have struggled for so long. when that kid did that, he insulted thousands of people of every race. Let this be his lesson learned





That is what "T" stated and its correct


and even Sfsun*'s understands


just to name a few





now.....


{ Whites also beat up a black kid, shotgun part, party


and so much more but they got away with it }





The whites who hanged those nooses are ignorant.


they knew the history of blacks





and I'm sure they knew this would happen


if they hanged those nooses.





I think its disgusting and


as much as i see it


i would have joined in





make it 7 black boys


after everything thats happened to blacks


even when this country was built on racism,


the black holocaust, Segregation, etc





Whites still think its some kind of joke


i think those whites deserve what happened.


They are BULLIES and RACIST.





Im sure they knew


Its a death threat


to hang nooses





they are no different than the KKK


and this is why whites make me sick


even when they complain on yahoo.


I'm sorry for those white people who are not racist


but its like Art. If there is a big mistake,


The rest of the painting/Drawing is unappealing,


and for the white race. It just makes the hole race


unappealing to me





sorry but i dont care








EDIT:


He wasn't even beaten to death.


and for the people who thumbed me down


answer my statement tell me what is wrong


with it!!!!





HAM B*


Did you read my answer properly?


I DONT care!!


those kids understand the relationship between blacks and whites in history, which was taught by their racist parents





racism is not inherited it is TAUGHT.


you say "wait three months.....etc so called death threat"


do you understand how whites intimidate blacks in history?


you say "it cant be justified but if thats the case


they committed a hate crime and deserve to go unpunished"


BULL.s.hit!! some people are getting away with other crimes


as we speak today and some people are being arrested for crimes that was even 3 years ago!!





and as the saying goes "Actions can speak louder than words" proves it.





read Rollin_West* answer he states it better than i have





The only part in your answer i agree with


was the last few sentences
Reply:If you want impartiallity and justice, then stop with the "black people" statement. Using skin color to define people can lead to problems. Call them "ignorant people", or the like.
Reply:Well think about it - African Americans are a minority, and look all over the globe my friend, minorities tend to stick together, especially when they are the victims of de facto and de jure racism and segregation for several generations. Black people have to live in a fear that they will not get a fair trial, and will not be treated the equally by our justice system.





And the thing is - yea, it would nice if we could all consider each other as equals, as humans, on a equal playing field. But that's just not the case in today's society. African American culture is different than White American culture. A sense of community is inevitable when a group of people is forced from their homelands en masse, thrown into slavery, seperated from their families, lose their languages and cultures, subject to some of the most worst treatment of human beings in history, and then, when the white guys in charge decide that "hey, maybe slavery is wrong...", these people are "freed", but suffer extreme discrimination and as a result, must form communities and a unique culture to adapt to this situation. So there is a sense of community among African Americans, an acknowledgement from one black person to another that they are "brothers".





This is just an answer to your question. Most black people I know knew that OJ was guilty. They're support for him was more based on the injustices of his trial. We live in a country where every person is guaranteed a fair trial, obviously those rules can work out for the worse, but it is the rule. And the Jena 6? Those boys are not guilty of attempted murder. The victim provoked those boys. They're guilty of beating up a boy, that's all. That school, that town.. that region is one of the most racist places in America.





Open up your eyes, white people. This country is not equal. Just because the laws are gone, doesn't mean discrimination isn't still rampant, even moreso in some areas of the country. White people still cross the street when they see a group of black or hispanic guys. Korean store owners still keep an eye on the black kids in their stores. Black people still are afraid to drive through affluent white neighborhoods. We have a long ways to go.
Reply:The boy that was beaten DID NOT hang the nooses in the tree. Beside violence is a crime, six guys beating another is NOT acceptable. Beside, Mychal Bell, one of the attackers, has prior violent convictions. I see a pattern. He needs to be locked away for a long time. Good luck. 2D
Reply:its just the american black boy mentality. ask this question.. how come there are more blacks in jail in america when there are more white people here.. the ignorant blacks are going to say because cops are racist.. but any rational human will tell you because more blacks are criminals.