RON PAUL leads in Polls of people who have heard him ? take a look :?

Ron Paul Leads in Polls of People Who Have Heard Him Speak


by Jennifer Haman


by Jennifer Haman








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After the first three debates on National television, three mainstream news channels featured polls asking the American people who won. After the first debate on May 3rd, MSNBC ran a poll obtaining over 72,000 responses showing Ron Paul was the most convincing candidate receiving 45% of the vote. His nearest competitor was Mitt Romney who received 18%. Fox news ran its own poll after the second debates on May 15, and with over 40,000 votes Ron Paul came in second with 25% of the vote. Watching Sean Hannity's face was priceless as while he was saying that Ron Paul's chances were over in this election, Fox's polling numbers flashed across the screen and had Ron Paul in the lead. He immediately did his best spin to claim the polls had been rigged. MSNBC also ran a poll about that debate and discovered Ron Paul was, again, the most convincing candidate with 64% of the over 25,000 responses. After the third debate on June 5, CNN's poll of over 25,000 respondents showed Ron Paul won with 60% of the vote.





One would think with such a strong showing on the online polls for a "second tier" candidate that the mainstream media (MSM) would have discussed this phenomenon at length and on the front page. However, no such stories appeared. In fact, MSM pundits did their best to ignore these figures and instead focused mainly on who they deemed to be the top three choices; effectively, taking control of the election and deciding quite undemocratically who was a "real" candidate.





Even though the MSM is largely ignoring him, Ron Paul is taking the Internet by storm. His name leads in searched terms ahead of even Paris Hilton, his YouTube videos have been viewed over one million times and he has more Meetup groups than all other GOP candidates combined. Poll after poll conducted on the Internet shows Ron Paul winning or at least in the top three. Yet, these polls are completely discounted and Ron Paul's tremendous Internet support is sloughed off by the MSM. Occasionally, the MSM will grant some notice of the huge grassroots support online but then discount it by saying "he may be doing well online but he is only polling at 1 or 2 percent." Doesn't anyone see a disconnect between those two clauses? Who do they think is on the Internet? Pet mice running around in tubes? The Internet, for those who seem confused, is a link of people who write things and have ideas and OPINIONS. The 300-plus Meetup groups he has across the country are also attended by people. The MSM is trying to get us to believe that Ron Paul is only polling at 1% because that is what was said on a few polls and the fact that he is polling much higher on the Internet does not count. It is as if they believe that the people on the Internet are not real, their opinions do not count, and the Internet polls could not possibly be correct. The argument is absurd, insulting and designed to keep Ron Paul out of the mainstream public's eye. The MSM ignores his success because of the misguided concept that people do not want to "waste" a vote. It is never a waste to vote for what you want: indeed, nothing could be more wasteful than voting for what you do not want because you think it the lesser of two evils. Voting for evil is always a bad idea.





Not only is the MSM staying mum to keep you from seeing Ron Paul as a legitimate candidate but there have been active attempts to hide information about his successes. After the third debate CNN not only ran a poll, but also asked viewers to voice their opinions about the debates. Comments started pouring in supporting Ron Paul, along with all the votes. The next day CNN removed the comments from their webpage. Clever supporters found these lost comments through Google's cache (a technology that takes a virtual picture of a webpage on a certain date, so you can see if it has changed).





When silence does not work, biased pundits accuse Ron Paul supporters of "spamming" the votes (that is voting over and over for their candidate) and claim that this huge show of support is really being done by a few campaigners. This claim is specious for several reasons. First, if it was so easy to spam the polls, all the candidates would do it and online polling numbers would look more like an American Idol session with tens of millions of votes cast. Second, anyone, who understands that the Internet is not a series of tubes, knows that it is easy for a web designer to develop a poll that prohibits more than one vote per person. In fact, most of the online polls do restrict you to voting only once and if you attempt to vote again, even weeks later, you get a polite message that your vote will not count. Finally, along with the polls themselves, people leave comments, thousands of individual comments.





So let's look at these polls and their methodologies.





Many online polls have tens of thousands of responses, especially the ones done by the MSM immediately after the debates, while old-fashioned telephone pollsters only get responses from hundreds. Yet, only the old telephone polls are reported on by the MSM. We are asked to accept that a poll with 600 persons responding is more accurate than a poll with 70,000 respondents. For example, a much-cited Zogby poll admits that they only targeted 500 interviews and drew their samples randomly from telephone CD's of a national listed sample. (In that poll Ron Paul has a 3% lead). A recent Washington Post article cited its own telephone poll that only reached 1205 adults, and that was used to say Ron Paul is only receiving 1% support.





Instead of citing polls that have 70 to 100 times more respondents, the MSM still sticks to old-fashioned telephone-polling methods. The world has changed. We no longer need to depend on poor polls that only call a few hundred people, nor should we be relying on them to tell the whole story. Some say random telephone sampling is more effective just because of its randomness and therefore there is no self-selection bias as in the online polls in which one chooses to partake. However, elections are also based on self-selection and are only won and lost by those who choose to go to the polls: so shouldn't the self-selected polling methods be more accurate? The good news is that of those who have heard Ron Paul speak (if only for the 5 minutes or so he gets in the debates) he is leading by a landslide; unfortunately, not enough people are getting to hear about him.





This race would look much different if the leading headlines the days following the GOP debates were (in order of the debates): 1. Ron Paul takes GOP by surprise and WINS the debate. 2. Ron Paul once again a leading contender in second debate, comes in second. 3. Ron Paul wins third debate hands down: other candidates struggling to keep up. If the people were told Ron Paul won the debates, more would learn about him and his support would grow exponentially.





In all fairness, the polls that show that Ron Paul is ahead with 98% of the vote are just as inaccurate as the polls that show he is only polling at 1% and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. But the largest online polls, the ones taken after the debates, have him receiving somewhere between 45% and 60% of the votes. So, why the big disparity in polling numbers? Some have suggested that Ron Paul has a lot of young supporters who do not own landlines and thus are not being polled. Other explanations come to mind as well: 1. Typical polls will only call a certain type of voter e.g. people who voted Republican in the last election and this will leave out a lot of Ron Paul supporters. Ron Paul's message of liberty and freedom reaches across the aisle and a lot of previously registered Democrats are switching parties to vote for him in this election. For the same reason, many Libertarians and Independents are also going to be voting as Republicans this election. Much of his support also comes from young people who are voting in their first Presidential election and thus would have no previous voting record. 2. Ron Paul's message of freedom and liberty is so exciting that people who have decided not to vote in past elections have decided that finally they have someone for whom to vote. 3. Some polls are so biased they do not even list Ron Paul as a choice (coincidentally, in a few of those "other" is leading the pack): Hard to win a poll when your name is not on the list. 4. Ron Paul fights for the individual, not the government, and his message appeals to those who like to be left alone. During this election many individuals have caller ID and often choose to avoid telemarketers and callers they do not know. 5. Some of these polls begin with intrusive questions about a person's gender, religious affiliation, annual income, and other information some see as none of anyone's business. If you refuse to answer the initial questions they will not continue with the questions. The type of person that likes Ron Paul, also tends to like privacy. 6. Sadly, not enough people are getting to hear about his policies.





Once they hear him, Ron Paul's supporters are very passionate about his message. A search of Internet "blogs" shows people writing zealously about him. Nothing could be more thrilling than to see an 18-year-old excited about the election process, shouting out support for Ron Paul, begging to hear more information about the Federal Reserve and its implications for the country. Through his campaign, Ron Paul is teaching many the benefits of limited government. There should be no surprise that his message is so well received; it is the one taught to us by Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and other founding fathers. It is the message of liberty, freedom, with the basis of a republic, not a democracy. We have been lied to so often, and our Constitution ripped apart at the seams, that when a person comes along speaking basic truths and principles, it awakens a part of us buried for so long.





When ignoring Ron Paul does not work, and removing messages about him receives backlash, the next stage is to call his supporters rabid, nuts, crazy, unstable. If you cannot attack the man, attack his supporters. Yet who can blame people who get upset when a life-saving message comes along and the MSM tries to keep it from the public. Ron Paul's message is life-saving. He wants to end the war, he wants to help ease poverty by eliminating the Federal Reserve and its ability to steal through monetary inflation. He wants to end the Income Tax and give those who need it most their entire salaries. The anger you hear is frustration by his supporters at being marginalized, just as they are by so many government actions these days, and fury when all this support is discounted. Of course people are getting upset. They do not like being manipulated and they especially do not like it when a Presidential campaign is being hijacked.





The worst part about the MSM treatment of Ron Paul, is that finally the people have a candidate they really love, and a man who would get this country back on the proper course. They have a man who will follow the Constitutional course that served this country so well for so long. Instead of rejoicing and helping the country and the people find their way, corporate media giants are trying to silence his message by ignoring him completely or reporting on only the most obscure, misleading and slanderous articles (could this be because Ron Paul is also against corporate welfare?). Most recently, even the Associated Press got into the "let's lead with misleading statements" game. In reporting on how Dr. Paul decided to hold his own rally after being the only candidate in the debates to not be invited to a Presidential Forum in Iowa, the AP's first line in the article was that Ron Paul has added "party crashing" to his debate tactics. As any ten-year-old knows, to crash a party you have to attend the party. Ron Paul had not announced he would attend the Presidential forum. Instead, he decided to hold a completely separate event immediately following the forum in the same venue. That is not party crashing, that is called campaigning. The article went on to tell the truth about the situation, but that catch phrase was repeated as a headline across the country impugning Dr. Paul's character. See for example this ABC News headline: Republican Ron Paul to Crash Iowa Forum.





Just as Ron Paul spoke of blowback in the context of military interference in foreign affairs, unless the mainstream media ends the Ron Paul blackout and misinformation drive, they will lose the next generation who is seeing it as a biased, manipulating, election-fixing force not to be trusted.





When Ron Paul gets heard or seen, he is liked. As soon as people who do not own computers are able to see him or read his message his numbers in the national polls will rise just as they have done on the Internet. In general, the American people are saying they want liberty and freedom: Now, if only the MSM would listen.





"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." ~ John Quincy Adams








July 16, 2007





Jennifer Haman

RON PAUL leads in Polls of people who have heard him ? take a look :?
he won my 2 Republican polls
Reply:Jenn,


You could'nt of said it any better


Thanks for supporting Ron Paul


Go Ron Paul!
Reply:Ron Paul is a candidate that both liberals and conservatives can vote for without feeling like they sold out. He is THE populist candidate (and my choice). That being said, the filthy, corrupt political system in the u.S. will never let him win. He is the only, REAL candidate whom wants to change the system and that's exactly what they don't want, a changed system. Still, spread the word RON PAUL 2008!!!!
Reply:That's sooooo long!
Reply:I will vote for him even though I dont think he will win. I think that the party machines are in action and we voters have no power in this so called democracy
Reply:He has my vote!! And don't be decieved. More people know about him than the media wants you to believe. Obviously when he speaks about civil liberties and giving the power back to the people he strikes a nerve with bureacrats and the those in power.
Reply:I'm not sure if I'm a supporter yet, but I'm liking him more and more.





I think I'm down to Ron or Mitt Romney. Everyone other candidate talks about making government bigger.
Reply:"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." ~ John Quincy Adams





We need to get out of the Dems vs. Reps mindset and vote for the candidate instead of the party. The two party system has divided Americans for far too long.





Ron Paul - the true American Patriot.





http://www.ronpaul2008.com
Reply:His campaign is gaining more and more momentum. Outraising a first tier candidate: good sign.





Go Dr. Paul!
Reply:What changes do you think Romney will make if he gets elected?





10. Replace office of vice president with offices of First Counselor and Second Counselor





9. Reduce current size of Cabinet from fifteen to twelve to match the number of oxen supporting Mormon temple baptism fonts.





8. Call the Three Nephites to assume the Office of Homeland Security.





7. Disconnect the "Red Phone" from the link to Moscow to a link to Salt Lake City's Church Administration Building.





6. Order all military personnel to wear Mormon temple garments for protection from bullets, fire, knife wounds, weapons of mass destruction and sexually transmitted disease.





5. Suggest to Gordon Hinckley that he call Hillary Clinton as first non-Mormon General Relief Society President in order to get more Democrat votes for his second term.





4. Call Boyd K Packer to head up the Federal Bureau of Investigation into any and everything of a personal nature to young men.





3. Rename the Department of the Interior to the Department of the Inferior and call his wife Ann as the director.





2. Begin each cabinet meeting with gang-like handshakes, tokens, signs and penalties and conclude the meeting with the "True Circle Jerk Order of Prayer."





1. Make Re-formed Egytian the official language of The United Nations.





The Mormons believe we all lived in Heaven with Heavenly Father, several Heavenly Mothers, and 20 Billion Heavenly Siblings before we were born here on Earth. Then there was a war. The good guys won and were born White. The bad guys lost and became demons. Those who were neutral or did not fight bravely were born with non-white skin. The bravest of the brave were born to Mormon families.





We all know that Romney must have been a "Valliant Warrior" in the "War in Heaven" during the "Pre-Existence". How else could he have been born "White and Delightsome" to an LDS family here on Earth? Heck, he was probably one of the Commanding Generals . Now , America needs a President with valuable military experience like that to get us through our war in Iraq. Could you please ask "The One and Only True Prophet", Gordon Hinkley, to please release those valuable records to the public? We need to know what battles he fought in. How many medals he won. How many of the "Less Valliant Soldiers" he recommended being born with black skin when they got their chance to be born on Earth. Was Al Sharpton one of THEM ? How about Jesse Jackson? Mormons, this is your chance to show the world the light of the everlasting gospel. Dont miss out. We have General Romney running for president of the USA and we need you badly right now!
Reply:didnt think id want to listen to a republican, but if i was back in the U.S. he'd get my vote.


a true decent politician!!!!!


shock!
Reply:Ron Paul!!





http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/22/magazi...
Reply:Great post Jennifer! The proof is there that Ron Paul has strong grassroots support and is a contender for the GOP nomination.
Reply:Two days ago, I signed up on his website for information. so far, i haven't received a damn thing.





Ah, well....





wsulliva
Reply:Ron Paul seems to be the easiest candidate to get people to support, as long as they haven't heard of him yet (in everyday social life, not on the net). The sad thing is, very few have heard of him, and I don't talk to that many people. The good thing is, he's got lots of passionate supporters!





His supporters and campaign work differently than top down campaign's of rivals. With the grassroots support, it's more like p2p technology, instead of a few single source points for the information, you have thousands of nodes with the same "file". Younger people laugh when you say you watch the news, they get their info from their friends, and the net.





On top of that, his message is incontrovertible, and his stances/record have always been solid as well. It's very hard to throw anything at him that sticks, always a good thing. The best that detractors can come up with, is his supporters are spammers. This, while online, you can always find out who they support and find the true reason why they say this. He hurts their candidates chances.





Good luck to Dr. Ron Paul!
Reply:The ruling elite fears Ron Paul. They know that if he is elected their days of raping and pillaging are over.


If something is within the power of the presidency, Ron Paul will fix it. It it's not within the power of the Presidency, he will pressure Congress to fix it. He is a man who has devoted his public life to upholding the constitution and yes, he knows full well that the constitution is not a "living document". It should not be changed. He supports America and Americans. Please folks get the word out about Ron Paul and then support him and vote for him. The way many people see it, this is our one chance to bring our country back to what Thomas Jefferson envisioned. Don't throw it away by voting for one of the two parties talking heads. Ron Paul is for real and can be our president if only the masses will wake up, stop thinking that the corporate media outlets CNN and MSN or the Associated Press have Americans best interest at heart.


Ron Paul needs your financial support and your vote. My grandchildren need for you to vote for Ron Paul.
Reply:Keep up the good work Ron Paul you're on the mark.
Reply:Ron Paul is the hope for America. America and Americans are being sold out. You work close to 40% of your life goes to paying for things the government want you do pay for. You should be enjoying your only life instead of working it away to pay for things you don't have any say so on.





North American Union


NWO


National ID


911 Coincediences


Patriot Act








You are paying for debt incurred by the government as soon as you make your first penny. Fed Reserve needs to take its paper money back instead of us being numbered (SSN) and forced to work to pay.





myspace.com/humanadvance
Reply:Sorry, kids! Another Republican is not what we need! I haven't seen a Rep. yet with principles! They want you to believe they have them, but what they have is rhetoric!


They can not own up to what they do, its always someone else's fault! Especially Democrats, and that gets real old, real fast!


and this time, I am not sure that who we have running is any better!


We need a modern day cross between Lincoln and Franklin D. Roosevelt! Maybe he could get us out of this mess Bush has gotten us into!
Reply:Don't vote for any Republican next year for President,vote for the Democrat,vote for John Edwards,Ive been sending him money,the Democrats have the Momentum there gonna win in 2008!
Reply:Sorry that was way too wordy.